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This is unacceptable work — right?

3 years ago

My mom paid for a contractor to install beadboard on her kitchen peninsula and got this…

I don’t want her to say she’s accepting this and make final payment. She’s elderly, lives alone, and is concerned about hurting his feelings by raising issues with his work. I think it would be reasonable to ask him to remove this shoe and do a thinner one at least — or come up with some other fix for those terrible corners. Am I just nit-picking and being overly protective of my sweet mother? As a side note, she’s looking to sell in the next year; I think this would be off-putting to buyers.

He did some work on other parts of the house too, but this is the worst of the worst — you should see the caulking he did in the bathroom 🤦🏼‍♀️

I’d never even pretend to be an expert but I’ve done just enough DIY to know a lot of this was not done correctly.

Comments (19)

  • 3 years ago

    What was the agreement? Did your mother say exactly what she wanted or just a vague I want to install some beadboard?

    This is the problem when you don't have a design, sketches or photos showing exactly what you want. What someone else thinks is "normal" is probably not the same as the vision you might have in your head. Never leave it up to someone else's interpretation of their "normal".


    What you can help your mother with is understanding her real estate market. Depending where she lives and the cost of the land vs the cost of the house, it might not make any sense to make improvements. I used to live in the LA area and in the town I lived in land cost was about 2/3 the value of the property, so it would make little sense to remodel an older house, which will most likely be gutted or torn down by the next buyer. Talk to a couple of realtors so she knows exactly what she needs to do, if anything, beyond basic repairs and a thorough cleaning.

  • 3 years ago

    I don’t think they needed sketches, it’s a tiny project — this wasn’t part of a larger reno or anything major, this was it as far as the kitchen. All they really agreed upon was beadboard along the peninsula with trim. She’s not picky about design specifics but I think finished corners should be a given. Maybe these are finished by some standard. This looks sloppy and like (bad) DIY to me.

    This isn’t a project she’s doing specifically for resale. She wanted it done for her own enjoyment as well. She’s of course hoping buyers would like it too. I really only mentioned resale because I’d imagine potential buyers raising some eyebrows about shoddy workmanship.

  • 3 years ago

    I wouldn't like that trim. You probably will have to fix this with the right trim.

  • 3 years ago

    This is not great work...

    However, while it is perfectly reasonable to point out concerns with work in a timely manner, it is much less reasonable to require a return trip because she changed her mind. So, if your mother said that the work was acceptable and the contractor packed up and left, then it was acceptable. If the contractor is still working on your mother's property, or she didn't see the work at the end of the job, then it seems like a fine time to address the issues.

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    $60 handyman with materials bought and on hand, with a tail light warranty? Par for the course.

    We can see it wasn’t the $600 licensed contractor, who sourced all of the materials, purchased, delivered, then carefully color matched the existing paint before setting up his table saw and miter saw to cut everything perfectly to fit. With a year’s labor warranty.

  • 3 years ago

    Appreciate the responses. She hasn’t given final sign-off — he is coming back to do the stuff that he definitely acknowledges needs to be done (like cleaning paint and caulk off of her grout, which I can’t imagine will go very well either!). Asking him to come back if she’d already said the project is complete wouldn’t be right or fair — I totally agree!

    Frank and Frank I think you’re dead-on. I actually tried to convince her a handyman shouldn’t be doing this type of work 🙄 I guess you get what you pay for.

  • 3 years ago

    I disagree wholeheartedly with everyone saying this is normal. I am not much of a diyer but as a human with eyes and a basic understanding of trim work this doesn’t look right. I would let him know that isn’t what you want and have a game plan of how you want him to fix it. If he says no then maybe this is a hard lesson learned and get started looking for someone else who can fix it but maybe he says yes and has no problem fixing it!

  • 3 years ago

    There are lots of google image results of good trim options for an island with bead board

  • 3 years ago

    "I would let him know that isn’t what you want and have a game plan of how you want him to fix it."


    @Rebekah Gibbs, But the OP never said what they wanted. By their own words there were no drawings, nothing approved. You can ask but may get told ne, you had the opportunity upfront to tell me what you wanted.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Kathryn, he wasn't thinking ahead. All he had to do is have the molding mitered at the corners and corner molding die-in-to-it top and bottom and it would look nice and finished or simply use scribe molding, most moldings have a 1/4" projection.

    That said, you can tell whoever did this has no knowledge or experience with finish work especially when it comes to cabinets... it looks like a handyman's special.

    The good news is it's a quick and not expensive fix, a few pieces of molding and an oscillating tool 10 min and it will look perfect.

    Good luck


  • 3 years ago

    Here is the dilemma as I see it... I would not accept this work, as @GN Builders L.L.C mentioned the outside corner molding should have been trimmed and the top and bottom molding selected so the outside corner molding could die into it.

    However, I am not sure that makes it unacceptable. This is a fairly standard way to install quarter round when it meets a vertical molding protrusion. Certainly I would want it redone, but I don't know if the fight about acceptable is worth it. Find a picture that you want, show it to the person and then pray he can pull off this rather easy job.

  • 3 years ago

    Millworkman Your comment is true in that maybe they didn’t agree on quarter round vs 3 inch trim ahead of time. Your comment is wrong in that no one should have to specify ahead of time he/she wants appropriate finishes or acceptable standards. I don’t have to tell the mechanic to put motor oil in my car instead of olive oil yet they seem to always give me motor oil. You don’t butt rounded trim edge up against another trim like that. This isn’t even a job to critique, he didn’t even try. Would you advise your own mother that she got what she deserved because she assumed the professional she hired would know what to do or ask her the right questions? This is not acceptable work and OP is not being picky at all.

  • 3 years ago

    Verbo that is not bare bones acceptable in any way.

  • 3 years ago

    "and OP is not being picky at all."


    No, but the OP is being the arm chair QB at this point. I am not saying I disagree with, all I am saying is asking a handyman who is obviously not qualified to make to decisions and turning him, loose will more often than not end up in this situation. Of course hindsight is 20/20 but you cannot flat out say it is unacceptable. Questionable and not truly the correct way of doing it but not unacceptable. There are much worse examples of "unacceptable posted here weekly for sure. Ask for it to be redone. Have a solution and the $20 worth of trim on site and ask the handyman to install it, he may or he may not but it is half an hours work tops unless he glued the trim as well.

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Being picky starts on the front end. With pictures and specifications. And hiring someone capable of creating the vision. What was done was a low end way of achieving covering of the raw edges. It isn't unacceptable, just not a "designer touch".

  • 3 years ago

    Why not? Would you accept it? Why would you accept it? Kathryn, your question was is this acceptable - obviously my opinion is no it is not. I hope that you find a solution to the issue. I bet you could watch one YouTube video and do it yourself. As GN Builder said this should be a quick easy fix. People on this site are always quick to blame that you didn’t do enough or know enough or didn’t have an architect draw up blue prints to add beadboard to an island? and I hope you and your mother don’t feel that way. I would hate to have work done by those saying this is acceptable. Maybe where I live we have a higher standard of craftsmanship but for any price I know that is not acceptable trim work. If your mother lives in the greater Seattle area I’m more than happy to lend you my husband to do it the right way lol :)

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    @Rebekah Gibbs - asked, "Why not? Would you accept it? Why would you accept it? Kathryn, your question was is this acceptable - obviously my opinion is no it is not. [...] People on this site are always quick to blame that you didn’t do enough or know enough or didn’t have an architect draw up blue prints to add beadboard to an island?"

    Unacceptable work is work that doesn't conform to some reasonable standard. It has nothing to do with whether or not this work meets your, or my, personal standards. I have already said that I personally wouldn't accept this result and it should be fixed, however, a failure to meet my standards doesn't mean the work is non-conforming, it just means that I expect higher quality work than this.

    I haven't blamed the OP's mother at all, however, I would certainly provide some more details if you ask the contractor to address this as evidence suggests that his vision alone is lacking.

  • 3 years ago

    I think the choice of trim on the bottom is fine if nothing was specified. Obviously it should wrap the corners properly. I would use the same trim at the top as well, again, going around the darn corners.


    The chunky trim shown above would be much worse in this kitchen (from what is shown).


    It looks fine aside from the trim, and shouldn't be hard to fix.

  • 3 years ago

    If your elderly mother is happy with it , why stress her out about this ? It’s not that bad .