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Help with mixing countertop materials please!

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

I need help choosing a counter top material that complents the existing kasmir white granite as i cant exactly match the existing color The u shaped island is going away and a 40x80rectangular island will replace it. i was thinking quartz in a white? HELP


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  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Agree with above, all new counters the same and new backsplash. And thank you for not wanting to paint the wood cabinets!

    Patricia S thanked susan49417
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Your existing granite is very pretty, what s waste it would be to tear it all out instead of just putting new on your new island. People are so cavalier about spending other people’s money. I’m not sure If I would mix quartz and granite, esp a plain white one. They can look pretty fake/plastic next to real stone. But if it’s your best option, then dark might look better - less like a swing and a miss, but a deliberate difference. But maybe look at quiet, dark granite, too. Will your new Island have matching cabinets or a different color?

    Patricia S thanked Olychick
  • 3 years ago

    Just trying to get more information. Sorry if my questions appeared critical.

    Patricia S thanked kl23
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I doubt anyone is being "cavalier"

    The amount of island material is probably greater than the perimeter.

    What you DON'T want to do, is spend twice, after you realize " Ya coulda had the V8" result for a bit more."

    Someone can use those perimeters, for a vanity top. Just sayin.: )

    Patricia S thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Her sink is on the island. Would agree but for that, and would bet the op wants the zero care aspect of a solid surface. Just a guess.

    Patricia S thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    3 years ago
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    IMO quartz is a step down and never works well with real stone. I would take a the pic of the perimeter stone and i do not know what the picture shows but if it is a picture of cashmire white then it is your lighting that is making the differnce .Replace all the bulbs with LED 4000K then go get a sample of cashmire white to compare.

    Patricia S thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 3 years ago

    I think we do need to know if choices have been made wrt flooring, base material for the island, and possibly a new backsplash. A colorful backsplash with a coordinating island could handle a butcher block countertop. Etc.

    Patricia S thanked ShadyWillowFarm
  • 3 years ago

    Your cabinets are gorgeous and quite the showstopper. My absolute favorite countetop material with cherry is soapstone.

    Patricia S thanked Sher H
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Doing only an island with white quartz seems out of place...like you updated/changed only part of the kitchen. White quartz is everywhere...and has been for years now...think outside what most kitchen renos in the last 10 years have done :)

    Patricia S thanked lucky998877
  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Agree cherry is lovely with Soapstone. You can substitute American Soapstone ( a GRANITE, actually ) and get a very close look. Many can not tell the difference in a stone yard.

    Seems a nice pairing with the rest of your home, as well.







    Patricia S thanked JAN MOYER
  • 3 years ago

    Thanks for all the advice. The island encroaches into the living space in its current shape. I have considered doing all but dont want to spend $$$$ I am worried it will look disjointed to do only one however ive seen a lot of mismatched counters done intentionally. the island cabinets are cherry and will be reused the back will be a cherry veneer or painted

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I think you would be better off choosing a dark stone or butcherblock for the island that compliments the counter so it looks deliberate. I don't think a white top would blend or compliment as well.

    Patricia S thanked beesneeds
  • 3 years ago

    My sink is on the island

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    My concern with a dark counter is all the crumbs and dust show lol. We are farmers and it is dusty here . The American Soapstone is gorgeous Is it a matte product?

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    American Soapstone, basically looks as soapstone does when oiled . A SUBTLE sheen versus glossy. Not all the way to matte.Seeing crumbs? To my mind? A good thing: ) Wipe em up.


    As to a different top on the island.......................it will be blah. You can't successfully mix much with the granite, OTHER than a natural stone and a solid. If you want that? You do a painted island, making it look very intentional, and not a casualty of the half measure redo. Honestly? You already got good advice way up there. Go shopping,, FIRST.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Look at darker granites. There may be enough variation, even in a quieter one, that every little thing won’t show. Plus, on an island you likely will be wiping it frequently. I guess when it’s where there is food prep happening I’d want to see if there was dirt..

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Please do not mix two different granites, unless completely and totally plain. "Absolute Black" honed or leathered . You can wipe crumbs and DUST in a split minute and would want to. It's a food prep area? Yes

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    @Olychick

    read my comment in ENTIRETY? Please

    "Unless".....

    "unless completely and totally plain. "Absolute Black" honed or leathered"

    Meaning No movement, no veins, no speckles no nothing. That leaves the perimeter granite as the star. More than one star becomes a kitchen "food fight" .

    This selective edit ( bash the pro ) as above? Getting really, really annoying.

  • 3 years ago

    Luckily all cabinets in the island will remain i do like black and removing the existing perimeter would be lovely. How do you remove existing granite without damaging the cabs?

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    It pops right off, zero damage. Believe it. It is on with a bead of silicone - tops are changed on existing cabinetry, all the time. Worry not.

    Patricia S thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    3 years ago

    There's a couple of countertop pro's around here that could give some helpful advice on how they remove countertops. But there is a procedure to removal. This site outlines the procedure: https://rskmarbleandgranite.com/how-to-remove-granite-countertops/

    There's other sites out there, but most of them outline the same thing.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    A very reasonable amount of care, makes it a non issue. Of course, granite is HEAVY. Two guys : ) Big guys. To carry it out.

    I'd say just have a very decent contractor do this, and in ADVANCE of a new template. Perfect world? The tile on the back splash gone before template of any new top as well.

  • 3 years ago

    I’ve determined that since the kitchen perimeter granite reads light (and I’m keeping it because I don’t want to waste it and it still pleases me), I’m going with a quiet white quartz for the island and changing the backsplash to subway tiles to complement and tie in the island.

    I would love to hear your favorite off white,soft white guartzite brands and colors!!! Thanks so much.

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I'm sorry but white anything does not go in that kitchen. A green, 100%. A black, absolutely! A cream, yes. But. Cream is awfully close to the existing counters. A close and not a match looks like a mistake. But a white looks like a worse mistake! Look at how stark and cold the back of the drywall looks in comparison to the rich warm tones of the kitchen. You would need to make multiple changes in the kitchen to bring in white as a color that works with the rest of the choices.

  • 3 years ago

    Green with Cherry cabinets reminds me of a Christmas tree. And black seems like the biggest miss. Can anyone do a picture mock-up of black for me?

  • 3 years ago

    I didn’t expect such an emphatic no to a soft White Island especially from a pro, but I respect your opinions and will rethink the black. There are some black specks in my existing granite. There is not a speck of green so that’s a hard no for me. Thanks again!

  • 3 years ago
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    I agree no to white counters. And I hate to say it, but I do agree with others that it would be so much better to just go ahead and do all new counters. I can't really think of any combo that will truly look good with the existing granite. Your cabinets are gorgeous. Give them all the counters they deserve. Save up, spend a little more and get the look you really want.

    I think manmade quartz will look perfectly fine if it's the only material in there (not competing with a real stone). It's a good budget choice and is popular for a reason, I think the right kinds can be beautiful.

    Cherry cabinets could look beautiful with a dark grey:


    If you must do just the island only: Personally, I'm not feeling black countertops, but that's just me. You would need to get something polished to match the sheen of your existing counters. Polished black is way too dark and will look dated alongside beige granite.

    I think butcher block might be fine, with dark painted cabinets. But still.....it's just ok.


    I tried a blue-ish tone, but I think the black cabinet looks better. (go for a "soft" black in satin.)


  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    You are going to hate it. But it's YOUR house, your decision. It's "meh!!!!"" for the island, and for what? To spare someone else who COULD use the perimeter granite? The answer to darkness is electricity, under cabs, and yes even the back splash. But your concept is not going to thrill you.

  • 3 years ago

    I want to show more photos of my space for reference. Thanks again. My style is traditional I think lol.

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    A lot of things need to be lightened up to work with a white counter. But the white counter needs to at least be on the perimeter also.


  • 3 years ago

    Thanks for the mock-up.

    Right. I just cannot go black counters in this house. I don’t get direct light in this room. The island will be existing cherry cabs and the only side to finish will be the one facing the living room. It will likely be Cherry veneer. Thank you again.

  • 3 years ago

    I am removing all granite and the contractor says he can save the backsplash except for the bottom row. It is a common tile and should be able to find a good match.

    Would you all please weigh in on granite or quartz colors for me? Thanks I’m advance.

  • 3 years ago

    Here are the backsplash tiles with 2 warm quartz samples.

  • 3 years ago

    And my room

  • 3 years ago

    I don't think that backsplash goes with any kind of countertop that is meant to mimic white marble. Sorry! If you want to keep the backsplash, go with something that has a warm white undertone.

  • 3 years ago

    Following

  • 3 years ago

    SeattleMCM please suggest a few colors you like in granite.

  • 3 years ago

    Just want to compliment you on your beautiful Brittany! We have two (white/orange and roan)

  • 3 years ago

    Sooo sorry, but I don't know a lot about granite or quartzites, so I don't have suggestions. If you want a light color, then maybe Taj Mahal? IDK. Somebody else may chime in. All I'm saying is that materials that mimic white marble usually all have cool undertones, and your backsplash is very warm. They will clash.

    If you really love your backsplash, you do you! Visit some kitchen places and ask what they have in the "warm white / beige" category.

    If you really love the white marble look for your counters, you're probably going to be way happier if you change the backsplash too.

    Sorry! Sometimes getting what you want will open a can of worms if you want it all to work together. BTW, I think your shaker cabinets are gorgeous, so at least you have that wonderful detail work with!

  • 3 years ago
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    Oh also, one more thing and I'll stop....

    Again, IF you love the white marble look, and your budget is starting to grow way too tight.... you can always have somebody rip out the backsplash, spackle over any damage, and then simply paint or wallpaper. If you wallpaper, you can protect the wall above your range with a $49 stainless sheet. I love tile backsplashes, but they are not the only option in a kitchen!

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Lose the back splash, unless you want a honed black granite, or a deep soapstone counter top. It is NEVER going to work. Don't try to save it.

    You've been trying for over a week : ) ? Yes?

    Below: Sort of a marriage made in the double matchstick place, and you'll hate it when finished.



    Neither as in none. Very sorry. No. The MATERIALS do not work well together.

    Nor do the colors. You're set on cherry, you're set on "light". You get two of the three important things and even the quartz is not the BEST for cherry. That said? Give on the splash. Or...... get Taj Mahal or another very light granite and still a simple splash to go with.

    There's no sin inCorian, btw......warm toned, light and less stark with all the wood



    and STILL the splash goes : )

  • 3 years ago

    You’d be surprised how pretty it looks in person.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Fine, you love the quartz........ditch the SPLASH. How many ways, can how many folks tell you the same thing. You don't need"permission", right?

    You're jamming a square peg in a round hole, but it IS your home. Just don''t say you weren't warned : )

    I wouldn't but hey....

  • 3 years ago

    Try messing around on the MSI site ... it has the option to superimpose different counters into your space, so you could see if any appeal to you.


    https://www.msisurfaces.com/product-search/?ctgy=slab

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks I have been doing that. Has anyone had luck with painting or tiling over their backsplash?

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    40 by 80 island will take center stage.....considering your sentiment about various things being left i would go ahead and leave the perimeter completely intact. work on the island...I would paint a darkish green [ maybe cream] and install a butcher block top. it will look good . then you are finished without fiddling around w backsplash or perimeter at all.....not worth the trouble as that will recede and the new island will be the thing.....black walnut....dense and fine grained..holds up well and works in any setting.

    Kitchen Addition · More Info



    Armani Fine Woodworking Walnut Butcher Block Countertop · More Info


    . focus on good little farmhouse sink and coordinating faucet.....

  • 3 years ago

    A painted backsplash can be fine, but you don't paint over what's there. You remove the tile, smooth and repair the wall, and paint the wall. Likewise retiling ... the current backsplash comes out first.

  • 3 years ago
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    Here's an article explaining why you might not want to tile over the tile.

    Personally I'm very open to the idea of painting tile in some circumstances. At the end of the day, it looks like painted tile. A bandaid solution. Totally fine in a sad old kitchen when somebody has almost zero budget to work with. But you have beautiful cabinets, and are getting new counters and a new island. In this circumstance, a painted tile backsplash might look like a noticeable shortcut contrasted against all of your other lovely finishes.

    Also, ask your countertop guy if it increases the price to preserve your existing backsplash. Being that careful takes extra time, which brings up the cost. It might actually be less to rip it out, patch and paint or wallpaper. (Do you know somebody who can DIY the demo and spackle, to save money?) Painted drywall (or wallpaper) will look way better than painted tile, and leaves the surface ready for new tile sometime in a few years. Ask your guy for quotes either way?

  • 3 years ago

    Thank you for being so kind with your comments.

  • 3 years ago

    Jan Moyer please stop responding. I don’t appreciate your tone.

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