Thanks Mark.

We were told about the solid wood as well. We are doing solid wood doors but the carcass will be in ply.

The island will be more like a table and in solid wood.

i imagined the Devol kitchen cost would be high as well, but all my searches have come up way lower than the hundred thousands. Trying to see if anyone has actually done a kitchen like this, and if so, how much it cost.

Mark is correct about solid wood not being the best choice, without rigorous whole home humidity control. He is also correct about the costs. Cabinets are approximately 1/4 to 1/3 of the costs of the total kitchen redo. Expert skilled labor is the largest cost. It is also key to achieving the look you want. Are you familiar with Remodel Magazine's annual industry survey, the Cost vs Value Report? Costs in the 2022 survey lagged well behind the reality of a whole industry of fast price increases in 2022. 2023's number will be sharply higher.

Devol seems pretty upfront with their pricing. Installation costs are all over the place depending on location, contractor demand/expertise and the scope of the project, ie. are you moving walls, plumbing, adding electrical etc....

https://www.devolkitchens.com/kitchens/shaker-kitchen/catalogue/base-cabinets

I agree, Devol seems really upfront - this is what is confusing me. There are people who say they had their kitchen done at a reasonable price (for quality) by Devol and then there are others who say they Devol because the cost was, as Mark said above, ”in the hundreds of thousands”.

I’m guessing these people are including more than cabintery when tbey say this?

We already have a contractor who is doing all tbe structural. our countertops are being installed by the maker.

We were quoted cabinetry for a

18’x16’ kitchen (including panels for appliances). Carcass is birch ply, cabinet face frame, door fronts, drawer boxes are in solid maple. Sprayed then hand painted. Island (more like a counter height table) is stained solid oak.

Quote is roughly 40k, installed.

I’m curious Devol is similar in pricing to this. I’ve reached out to them but was curious if anyone has used them who could chime in.

The pricing online doesnt say if includes painting, installation, etc.

Yikes! Wall cabinets have a useable depth of 8 5/8". Would love to hear how people make good use of that.

Thanks for the link, Floored You. I’ll check it out.

I’m really trying to understand the average cost of well made cabinetry these days. We havent done a kitchen reno in ages. Our current boxes are ply and gave us no problems which is why we hope to go with the same construction again. The solid wood will be the frame and door fronts.

I am not a cabinet expert but I did remodel with a custom cabinet maker and it was probably more costly for a much smaller kitchen than yours is but I had a lot of truly custom features in mine.

I don't think there really is enough information in order to judge whether your quote is realistic. There are factors that aren't spelled out that add significantly to the expense like drawers; configuration of cabinets; height of cabinets; any interior customization. In my experience those factors add significantly to the cost as opposed to a bare bones kitchen with few drawers.

As suggested, why not visit other high quality brands and get a sense of apples to apples pricing.

We did a similar sized kitchen back in 2018 using Wood-mode cabinets (before they had financial problems). Ribbon Mahogany doors/drawers and paneled appliances. Inside of drawers stained to match exterior finish. SZ, Wolf and Miele appliances. Quartzite counters. Just the cabinets were $80K. Labor in Los Angeles was around $50K. When all was said and done, the kitchen came it at around $220K.

If you are going to get inset cabinetry, I strongly advise you pay whatever upcharge it is to get uppers that are 15” deep. Regardless of brand. Standard depth is 12” exterior, which with inset construction will leave you with about 10-1/4” interior which is too shallow. Though I am astonished at the even shallower 8-5/8” mentioned above.

For your size kitchen in the Indianapolis area the prices are much higher than 40k (and even higher for inset)….your skilled labor to install is a huge chunk too. The advise to get a licensed KD on board is the way to go.

@Maria We just signed the contract for our new painted, Brookhaven frameless cabinets and there a a lot of them. Fridge and DW panels, island panels, two trash pullouts, all drawer bases (9 of them), pantry with rollouts, wall oven cabinet with inserts and 6 15" uppers, one with glass doors. Cost around $50K with very little customization. I did a significantly larger kitchen than this 5 years ago at our beach house with the same cabinets and the price was the same so things have gone up in price quite a bit.

We did a much smaller, custom kitchen in our previous house 14 years ago which had cabinets made by Kennebec Company in Maine, period style for our old house. Inset, some glass, 15" uppers (3), all drawer bases (4, one highly customized), two pullouts, one for trash, one for cans, wall oven cabinet with inserts, fridge, freezer and DW panel, crown mold and furniture style toe kick trim, penisnula panels, quartersawn oak, hand painted interiors (even drawers) and they cost $55K.

This is a long way of saying that $40K does sound low for high quality full custom painted inset cabinets.

I might add that while my Kennebec cabinets were beautiful, like fine furniture, I hated myself for spending so much money on them which is why I chose mid range for my new kitchen. The joy/price ratio just wasn't high enough for me. LOL.

cheri127

I know there is really no way to tell but I was just wondering what you thought your Kennebec kitchen may have added value wise to the sale price of your last home vs what a 10 - 12 year old Brookhaven kitchen would have? Sometimes a good quality timeless kitchen like Kennebec has a better return on investment in the long run. I’m not looking for numbers, just a gut feeling about whether the quality of that kitchen may have been a positive influence on your sale?

This was modeled after a photo my client gave me of a Kennebec kitchen she saw in a magazine.

@Jeff Spiers / The Old Lumberyard Inc I'm not sure a 10-12 year old kitchen adds any value to a house in an affluent area. We remodeled every inch of our 100+ year old house over a 25 year period so I have no idea whether the Kennebec cabinets added value when we sold. Our current 1984 house would not be better served with the highest end cabinets despite being in an affluent neighborhood. The current kitchen was state of the art with all high end appliances 20 years ago when it was installed yet we can't wait to rip it out. If one has the money, it all comes down to your joy/price ratio and I'm just not feeling it with the most expensive things money can buy. I've also never embarked on a renovation with resale in mind because I like to stay in one place.

Gotcha. They always say that the kitchen adds to the value of your home, and I guess that’s true if the next guy loves it. But if not, at least you got to enjoy what you installed while you were using it. I looked at a job once on the Vineyard. They were thinking about updating the cabinetry in anticipation of selling, but out there some one would buy a 20 million dollar house on the right property and just knock it down to build something else 🤷‍♂️, so best off to just leave it. I just find so many of the comments and thoughts on these sites interesting and that’s why I thought I’d ask. Thanks for the reply!

It's very easy to do the math on the deVol website -- the cost of the cabinets is right there. Just add up the cabinets you want and you'll see how much it costs.I think deVol will cost much more that 40K for that size kitchen.

Don't forget to add the cost of shipping from across the pond!