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C&B Axis in Douglas Pumice or Camel?

3 years ago

Would love advice! About to buy Crate & Barrel Axis sectional in either Douglas Pumice or Douglas Camel, but having a hard time deciding on which color will look best because the swatches are so small. Has anyone bought a C&B piece in either color of Douglas fabric?

Our house is mostly BM Simply White, white linen curtains, brass hardware, light neutral pillows and blankets (ivory, natural), walnut peg&groove floors and wood furniture. Lots of plants. Airy neutral vibes.

Even though I tend toward warmer neutrals, I’m concerned the Camel ( which is warmer than the two) will look cheap in a bigger piece. On the flip side, the Pumice (the more greenish-grey of the two) is slightly darker.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Comments (71)

  • 2 years ago

    Wanted to chime in on this thread as I am also considered getting either the Axis or the Lounge in Douglas Pumice or Douglas Camel. With my rug and walls, I need a fabric on the warmer side.


    I’d love to go with Douglas for maintenance/durability reasons, but it’s hard for me to envision what it would look like. If anyone has a photo of the Camel on an actual sofa, I’d love to see it! Or additional photos of the Pumice. In the photo above it looked quite gray but it may have been the lighting (I think it’s more of a greige)?

  • 2 years ago

    The pumice is more of a sand, I did not want grey and I don’t think it is in person at all

  • 2 years ago

    With natural light, it’s the perfect neutral, earthy tone I was going for. Here it is next to my grey bar stool

  • 2 years ago

    Wow, it’s amazing how different it looks in the two photos. I am also going for more of a sand color. I’ve been comparing the pumice and camel, and to my eye (which is admittedly not very good) the pumic looks more like a greige while the camel has warmer reddish tons.


    But of course I’m working from tiny swatches so it’s hard to have a good sense. Did you consider the camel as well?

  • 2 years ago

    I'm going through this exact scenario but after bringing a large fabric sample of the Camel home, I thought it looked a bit too yellow in my space, so I'm back to Pumice or Ice. I really like how the Pumice looks in above photos. I was concerned there might be a tinge of green. I'll share my photo of the Camel sample against my current light greige sofa.

  • 2 years ago

    Agreed! Have to be careful so eh any tan that is fabric. Or can often look very unnatural and yellow. I think pumice is a safer choice!

  • 2 years ago

    Camel fabric in center

  • 2 years ago

    I think that camel looks super nice in that room and adds some light!

  • 2 years ago

    I also love the pumice in the above photos. I like how it feels like a nice neutral taupe

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks so much, Karin! A couple of questions: 1) How did you get a large sample of the Camel? Did they loan it to you, or did you purchase it? The store I went to said they no longer allow loans. But, my experience is that sometimes different stores say different things, so I haven’t given up. :-) 2) If you did purchase it, what was the price? 3) Did you get a sample of the pumice too? If so, I’d love to see a photo with them both, if you feel like trying that. :-)

  • 2 years ago
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    I took a couple of pics with the small samples, on top of my rug along with some other fabric samples I am considering using for chairs (and, if I don’t, I will bring the colors in with pillows etc.) I also included some decor items.

    Note that the colors in the Pottery Barn samples look a little different in this light than in real life. The two on the left are two different shades of a muted blue/gray, one lighter and one darker. Second to the right is a camel, and on the right is a kind of rosey rust color (stock on one of the PB swivel chairs that I fell in love with).

    What I don’t love about either Douglas sample in these photos is that they both look pretty one dimensional to me - in this light you can’t see the herringbone at all, which gives it texture. But I guess one dimensionality is the price you pay for the ease of microfiber. (Not a fan of the microfiber look, but it fits my lifestyle so I’m hoping to make it work.)

    Anyway, based on these photos I’m prefering the Pumice (the one on the top - you can see I handwrote ”Pumice” on it). I think it is a better match to the neutral color in the rug. I actually have been struggling to even figure out what that neutral color in the rug is - in some lights it looks dark tan, and in some lights it looks gray. But these pics make me think it is a taupe/greige, and thus a good fit for the Pumice.

    Let me know your thoughts. So pleased to have comrades-in-arms for this dilemma! I’ve never taken a design decision to Houzz before, but I’m glad I did.





  • 2 years ago

    Funny story about the large fabric sample. The lady that is helping us with our sectional/room, told me to discretely roll it up & just walk out of the store with it but to bring it back the next day. They're not allowed to loan them out, which I find ridiculous, as it's the only true way to get a good idea of how it will look in a space. She said she couldn't give me permission to take it but to do it anyway while she wasn't looking. I felt like I was shoplifting lol, but I really wasn't. Took pics and brought it right back the next morning. Better than making a $6,000 mistake! Those tiny swatches did not help me out at all. I'm torn over the color decision.

  • 2 years ago

    Based on your samples, I really like the Pumice also for a sectional. The PB camel color almost looks like it pulls a touch of pink, which could be nice also. I like the idea of the swivel chairs being a darker shade for contrast, you can't go wrong with any of those. I'm trying to incorporate more color in my space as well, but for the sectional, I want neutral. Glad to have found this board as well!

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    That is hilarious about your ”shoplifting” episode! Apparently it was a recent decision by CB management to no longer give the larger samples out even with a deposit, because a lot of people were not returning them. But - the deposit should cover the cost, right? Such a dumb business decision, especially since many other retailers do give out the samples. I’m glad the salesperson was more sensible and willing to take a risk to do the right thing.

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks for your input on the Pumice! I am actually doing a sofa not a sectional, and will be purchasing two chairs as well (not sure which yet). My room is very open with a lot of windows and a fireplace, and very little wall space, so all the furniture will be floating. We felt like a sectional would interfere with being able to walk through well, so I am just going with a sofa (either the 88” Axis or 93” Petite Lounge).


    Here is a pick of the furniture layout CB did for me. Ignore the rug - the rug I actualy bought is totally different (its the one in the earlier photos). And I’m not necessarily getting the specific pieces of furniture in this design - we were just using placeholders to get a rough idea of layout and what fits. Very helpful service on their part!



  • 2 years ago

    Allie p! For what it’s worth, if you are set on the Axis sofa check out the option to get a bench seat. The one cushion rather than separate ones looks so much more modern and stylish to me on that style.

  • 2 years ago

    I do prefer the style of the lounge, and that’s what we landed on. It’s quite comfy!

  • 2 years ago
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    I will also say that the Taft Pearl (which is the fabric we got on our Lounge sectional is like a white ivory) def gets dirty and spraying cleaner on it leaves water stains. Although I hear the Taft Cement doesn't have that problem but it was just too grey for me and I'm so over grey. I sometimes wish we just got the douglas fabric! We ended up getting those Nolan sofa covers which are kinda cheesy, but fine for everyday when we're like eating in front of the TV with our dogs paws all over the couch. The bubble of my fantasy of white/light colored everything and the sales people talking about the stain resistant blah blah blah gets bursted everytime! If we switched the Lounge to Douglas fabric tho it would've been thousands of dollars more b/c it's not the stocked fabric so we never would've done it, but every choice has its drawbacks.

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks, Miranda! I’m so sorry to hear the Taft Pearl isn’t working for you. I too have been suspicious of the ivory/white sofa claims. I have been shooting for a light beige/greige or taupe but not cream or ivory.


    I don’t have kids or dogs, but I plan to entertain a lot in this room and I don’t want to be terrified my friends will spill something. That was a factor in my rug decision too. I love the ivory trellis rug look but was worried about a rug that was too light.


    I will take a look at the Axis with a single cushion - thanks for that tip!


    I like the style of the Lounge better than the Axis too. But the Lounge in a Douglas fabric is $900 more than the Axis in a Douglas fabric, as it’s stock for the Douglas. So I need to decide if the Lounge is worth the extra money to me.


    Btw - I am going for a roughly 90” sofa. So it would be 88” if I get the Axis and 93” if I get the Lounge. So that is a consideration too. I’m going to cut out some butcher paper to put on my living floor to see if 93” feels too big.

  • 2 years ago
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    This is CAMEL!


  • 2 years ago
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    Thank you Kate! That’s really pretty - looks nicer than I had expected. I had ruled out camel for my sofa but now will reconsider. Photos of material on actual sofas are SO helpful!


    Ps: To clarify, that is the Douglas Camel, correct?

  • 2 years ago
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    @mmagner022 sorry to bring back an older post, what color leg did you choose? i like the light brown!

  • 2 years ago

    Happy to help! I went with shale for the leg color

  • 2 years ago

    @mmagner022 thanks!! are you still happy with the sofa? how are the cushions and fabric holding up? waiting on our pumice fabric sample to atrive before pulling the trigger since Ice was too gray and camel seems too yellow.

  • 2 years ago

    This Douglas fabric is unbelievable - it cleans like a dream! It is sooo worth the extra money. I have a 1yo golden retriever so I was worried a lighter color would be a mistake but NOPE. It’s just like the day I bought it (I am the type to wipe her paws every time we come inside but still). Plus, she’s 65lbs and sleeps on top of the back cushions. They obviously sink in from that but if I have company come over I just give them a good shake/fluff and don’t let her sit on them for a day and it’s like brand new. Highly satisfied!

  • 2 years ago

    We've had our Axis, in Douglas Ice for 3 months now, and love it so much. Could not be happier with it.

  • 2 years ago

    Yay! thats awesome, cant wait to order ours!

  • 2 years ago
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    Does anyone else have pics of the douglas axis in camel or pumice? @mmagner022 any other pics you can post of your sofa? thanks!!!!

  • 2 years ago

    Karin, how have you styled it? im still struggling with how to style mine. pics above

  • 2 years ago
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    Michelle, we just received our Axis in Pumice today. I figured I’d post pictures for anyone else who is on the fence as this thead ultimatey helped me make my choice. It really is the perfect color for us. I was worried it would feel too grey but it definitely does not! Now we just need to get the correct rug and coffee table, and we will be all set! Our walls are Agreeable Gray for reference.


  • 2 years ago

    Thanks looks amazing!! We ended up buying ours too.

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks so much to everyone who posted pics! I can’t tell you how helpful that is. I put my furniture shopping on hold due to some other stuff going on in my life, but plan to get back to it in the fall.


    I would love to see more photos from anyone who feels inclined - if you got a new sofa in any Douglas fabric, or if you’ve restyled one. (I wish C&B would provide us with photos like that!)

  • last year
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    We have had the Lounge Deep sectional with left bumper in Douglas Ice for about a year and a half now. We absolutely love it. We have cats and a puppy and it has held up to everything including lots of muddy paws. I have spilled things like coffee and wine on it numerous times and it always wipes right off with a damp cloth.


  • last year

    Thanks so much for the good report and photo!

  • last year

    Loving these pics and that this convo is still alive. Really wishing we got the Douglas on our Lounge. We ended up with those grody Nolan sofa covers. Live and Learn!! 🤣🤣

  • last year

    Just seeing this Nikita. Here is how I styled it. I went with darker pillows:)

  • last year

    We are trying to decide between Camel and Bisque for Axis sectional with a wedge. We have beige / Jute color wall and natural / beige curtains. Any suggestions? Can anyone post photos if you have Axis in either of these two fabric? Thanks in advance.

  • last year
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    We were looking at those two colours as well, but our wall colour almost perfectly matches the the bisque so we decided to go with contrast of Camel. We’ll have them in late Feb/early March if you’re still looking. Here is a pic from in the store with bisque layered in a medium size square on the right wall. The large draped sample on the left is camel.

    The sofa beneath is Axis in Douglas Ice.



  • last year

    Thanks! We've placed an order with Camel fabric as well with Hickory legs. Bisque was very close to the color of our wall so this way we will have some contrast. Expecting it in February.

  • last year

    Oh wow – it looks like we are in almost identical situations! I’m sure the couches will be beautiful.

  • last year


    We received our Axis sectional two days ago with Douglas Camel fabric. Sofa doesn't look as dark as we anticipated based on the swatch.


    When we tried at the store, sofa seemed firm, but the one that we received is at the medium level. Many of the back pillows don't seem to have enough fill and they were already sagging when arrived. In two days, seats we used (probably seating a couple of hours on it in total) have sunken a bit than the other seats. From reading the list of material they have used (from the paper stuck to the sofa), it has 30% feather fill. But, as per their website, it is supposed to have only soy foam and they don't even mention feather. Even the sales rep never mentioned this sofa using feather. Build quality is also very cheap and sofa is very light weight. For the money paid (over $6k), this is really not a good buy and I don't think it will last very long. It is already losing it's shape in 2 days. They might have been making it differently before and might be moving to cheaper material now to save costs. I would suggest against buying this as you can get similar quality at Macy's, Costco, and even Ashley's for substantially cheaper.

    I've reached out to sales rep to raise my concerns. Not sure if they'll do anything but we will see.

  • last year

    @User can I ask what rug you have with your Axis? Looks great!

  • last year

    I ordered the axis sectional in douglas pumice based off of picture and not the tiny sample given to me at the store. the store sample looks dark brown to me and now im panicking haha.. those who own pumice what color does it pull?

  • 11 months ago

    I'm looking at the Axis sectional in douglas Pumice vs Icon Sand for a light beige color. The pumice photos in this thread are super helpful. Anyone have photos of Icon Sand?

  • 11 months ago

    @HU-635375100 Did you end up getting the camel? Do you like it? Can you share a picture? I am torn between the bique and camel. I want a lighter color but worried bisque will get too dirty.

  • 11 months ago

    @Jacquey Bridges We did go with the camel given we have three boys and two cats and had to be realistic. We were also concerned that Douglas was too light and had a slightly green undertone that might be highlighted by our warm tones on the walls. We love it. It’s light, does’t really look like microsuede and it’s much less concerning for wear with boys. We’re in a significant busy period the last few months so have yet to take pics other than a couple when we were deciding on paintings. I’ll include what I have for what it’s worth but there was no staging and our cat on his favourite orange garbage bag bed made the cut so these weren’t taken to impress :)




  • 11 months ago

    @Jacquey Bridges I would add they can look warmer or a little darker than these pics show when it’s less bright outside (dusk, evening).

  • 11 months ago

    @HU-635375100 Thank you!! It looks so good in your room. our room doesnt get as much natural light so not sure if itll look as good but i love that its warm toned vs cool toned.

  • 3 months ago

    Hi. Considering buying the Axis sofa. I want to pair it with leather side chairs either reclining or swivel. Does anyone have any suggestions or images they can share?