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layout decisions

3 years ago

I have three layouts that we are considering for our main floor reno. Some layouts has more space for closets and others have more space for formal rooms. The back 20 feet of the house has cathedral ceilings 12 feet high with skylights. So that space feels grand.
Thanks for your help !
Any suggestions .. having a hard time choosing ! Thanks

Comments (29)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Hard to compare unless you see them all at the same time.


  • 3 years ago

    plan 2 . definitely NOT number 1.

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks ! What don’t you like about it ?

  • 3 years ago

    Agree. Of the 3 you are presenting, plan 2 (although I think it could be improved). And plan 1 is the worst.

    • Plan 1 gives no way to go from the dining room to the family room without walking through the kitchen.
    • Plan 1 and 3 give you two eating spaces, which seems inefficient and overkill for a floorplan of this size.
    • Plan 2 gives you a "quiet" living room away from the kitchen mess and family room (TV room) noise, which is really useful for any home shared by 2 or more people. What I would love to change about it is screening the kitchen off more from the dining room. I don't have any good ideas on how to do that right now (except to abandon island seating and put up a wall). But I would accept the open kitchen/dining layout over Plan 1 or 3.
  • 3 years ago

    I prefer #2 as well but two things would bug me: not enough storage at the front door, and the location of the powder room.

  • 3 years ago

    Is there a reason you need 3 eating areas (breakfast, penninsula, dining room)? This seems like overkill in this amount of space. I'd rather have a decent sized kitchen, dining room, living room. Agree #1 is out with terrible kitchen with now prep area and having to walk through the kitchen to everything. #2 is nice but I'm not sure there is enough room for what you are trying to do - what is the clearance between table and chairs? I would not want a bench/banquet seating in my dining room. I think that's going to be too squished. I'd probably take #3 and move the powder room to the breakfast area and put in a closet. This allows you to extend the kitchen area into the powder room space so you actually have a decent prep area. You could have 4-5 stools and a nice formal dining room area.

  • 3 years ago

    RE: plan one...no other way to living zone except through main work triangle of the kitchen. big huge flaw. I like living plus family room in plan two. Re: 3 eating zones and plan 3, I suppose the spot w little table w two chairs could be something else if you are leaning toward the formal dining room as part of a plan . So that s the question between plan 2 and 3 .

  • 3 years ago

    #3 is growing on me. I like the idea of fewer, larger rooms.

  • 3 years ago

    I like plan 3, though I’d eliminate either the breakfast area or the island seating. In such a small space, multiple seating/eating areas seem unnecessary. 3 has the least cramped powder room too.

  • 3 years ago

    The reason why there are 3 eating areas—- I don’t like eating my main meals at a kitchen island on stools. We also have a bench that was custom made and we could use it. But I totally get the comment about 3 eating spots.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    #2 for sure . #1 the kitchen is too closed in and you have no real dining space .#3 has the kitchen encroaching on the FR and you have given too much space to the DR

  • 3 years ago

    How about this one?

  • 3 years ago

    That is much better! Good flow, good use of space. I would recommend making your island a peninsula coming off the powder room wall. Move the DW and sink to the left, so that the DW is right against the wall. Two reasons for that: 1) 42" is very tight for the sink and the range to be back-to-back. 2) It will give you more prep space around the sink, which will really improve kitchen function.

  • 3 years ago

    The thing I don't like about #2 is the view straight through the work area of the kitchen and the kitchen sink right from the front door. I would lean toward the 4th one.

  • 3 years ago

    Do you really need a formal living room and a family room?

  • 3 years ago

    If you don’t want to eat at stools i’d probably scrap the island seating. i think it is going to make the eating areas tight. then i’d think about how you want to use space. do you need two livingrooms? do you want a formal diningroom to host holiday dinners or guests? i think you need to decide what rooms are important to you then the plan can be tweaked. I love having a formal diningroom to host holidays, but obviously many folks are moving away from that and would prefer 2 living spaces. I have no need for that many couches in my house!

  • 3 years ago

    This is original. I don’t how tight the hallways are. I don’t like how the dining room is closed in. And it’s dated and needs a new kitchen .

  • 3 years ago

    See below

  • 3 years ago

    there's only one hallway that I see...from the front door to the powder room door. In a narrow row house? or such where the rooms are lined up the hallway does serve a purpose as the postion where one enters and leaves the spaces which have their various purposes. If you were to leave the front hall and living and powder room intact and work on dining/ kitchen/ and breakfast zone I think you could do quite a bit. thats probably how I would start w things as you get a hybrid result with some left in the original configuration and some re-done . Your plans seem to wrestle with rearrangement of everything. and you have good square footage I dont think you have to do that.

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks. Our house is 25 foot lot, typical old 90 year old now in Toronto. Its narrow compared to home outside the city.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I'd do layout #2 but have the lounge chairs in the family room face the sofa.

  • 3 years ago

    Disagree with ABC a bit, but noticing that your current dining room has a coffered ceiling. It would be nice to preserve that detail if possible. I have an idea, but before pitching it, or anything else, I'd love to know what all of your goals are. You've said you want a more open dining room and updated kitchen. What kind of living space(s)? Do you want two living areas? How many people live in the house, and what ages?

  • 3 years ago

    The coffered ceilings I do not like because I feel that it makes the ceilings low. It’s like 7.5 feet high and regular ceiling is over 8. Originally when we bought the house I was hoping for a family room at the back. I don’t like all open concept in general. I don’t need formal spaces …but I like it if I could have one. In general —- I need storage space, I need functional spaces. And I like a spot to eat that is near the kitchen. We have 4 people , 2 young kids (3,6). We want a big kitchen is what we want

  • 3 years ago

    Ah. If you don't like the cofferred ceiling than my idea isn't any good. I think plan #4 is the one to work from, with some tweaks. The cathedral ceiling does make the back end great for a family room.

  • 3 years ago

    I would appreciate hearing your idea! Just in case it grows on us☺️

  • 3 years ago

    Sure! Not really my own idea--friends of ours did this with their dining room. They have a sitting area in their formal coffered-ceilinged dining room. Comfy leather club chairs around a large ottoman, and a bar cabinet. It's a quiet adult space that manages to fit the formal look of the room while being casual and cozy. But there are a lot of other ways to adapt this. For me, it would be the perfect family room. Walled off a bit from other rooms so the TV noise stays contained. Just needs a cozy sectional and arm chair. Then your kitchen in the current location, but as a larger open galley or L with island that fills most of the east/west dimension at the bottom of the great room, and a roomy dining space above it. The hallway space just to the right of the powder room could be a beverage center, a desk for an adult or children, a cabinet for small appliances, etc.

  • 3 years ago

    Aww that’s an interesting idea !

  • 3 years ago

    The original is much better than anything you came up with. You can open the dining room in the original and still have it work. you can rearrange the kitchen to have a nice large kitchen.

    Your plans seem to be all over the place. What exactly do YOU need? Do you need two separate dining areas? Do you need two separate living areas? Or will one dining area and one living area work best for you.

    Another question is you have a 90 year old house. Are there any architectural features that should be kept and by redoing the whole house, will you lose those? If so, what you're doing is remuddling. Actually your floor plans are a remuddle. Sorry to be so blunt.