A prominent grower showed the video and why it didn't actually work and several other bogus propogating videos including growing roses in a potato

What is the payoff of videos that are blatant lies ?

"What is the payoff of videos that are blatant lies?"

The video creator makes a lot of money. Its as simple as that. They KNOW its all lies, but they don't care. They've garnered ten million views! Ka-ching!

Ken, I saw the beware video on a Facebook rose forum.

It shows propogating by using an immature rose hip. Cutting the stem really short and planting it in some soil mixed with turmeric and ta da , a nice big rose. It must have been the magic turmeric. lol

There were several other equally crazy methods and they all seemed to have some kind of weird soil amendment

There were several other equally crazy methods and they all seemed to have some kind of weird soil amendment

Ironically that statement happens to characterize what many rose hobbyists are often doing anyway.

UFL video with a good demonstration of t budding. Notice how easily the bark slips, that's important. The second worker comes along behind and wraps up the union. Notice how the petiole is left on for a handle. With roses a thornless strain of understock is much preferred. Can you imagine a video like this getting 10 M views? Sadly we are going through a time when fake/phony/hoax/conspiracy videos seem to be the accepted norm.

Loved that budding video especially the repeat to really get the method in my mind. It looks so easy, but I imagine its a skill that requires lots of repetition to perfect.

Sadly we are going through a time when fake/phony/hoax/conspiracy videos seem to be the accepted norm

It's not just videos. And while there are a lot of Americans heavily invested in nonsensical ideas it is definitely not everyone. With the bad advice that has long infested gardening discussions on social media often originating in long held conventions that have come over time to be found to lack a basis in fact. Rather than these falsehoods being generated by something that has arisen recently.

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I saw a few such videos about planting the hips directly, the most popular one getting 22million views. Other similar videos also have a lot of views, much, much more than videos on how to grow rose from seeds. So sad.

I just bought a few seeds packs of Arby and ebb tides and want to give a try. Luckily I remember seeing this thread before otherwise would probably going with the ”banana” way way, that is, if I get the seeds in hips.

thanks everyone for the good information

Sorry to tell you, but named roses cannot be grown from seed. Unless you propagate them vegetatively you will not get a clone of the rose you want. Anyone selling seeds from a named rose is either ignorant or a scammer, unless they explain the the results, if any, will be entirely pot luck. Perhaps that applies to you too, since you are tagging onto an old thread and extolling growing roses from seed?

No idea what 'Arby' rose is. Afaik it doesn't exist. Did you mean Abraham Darby?

flora, thanks so much! yes that is Abraham Darby. I am aware that growing from seeds will not give me the original rose so it will be a noid. Just wondering maybe it will somehow have similar features, like petal numbers, looks and scent? It will be fun to see what will come out🌹

I'm afraid it is unlikely to be much like the parent. This thread might interest you. Do rose seeds produce "true to type"? (houzz.com)

Flora, thanks for the link! Yeah looks like from a few pack of seeds my chance is slim

Of course you can grow roses from seed. That is not in question. The issue is that you cannot clone a hybrid rose by seed to get a copy of the parent. Obviously species will come true. I was careful to say that it is a scam, or ignorance, if it is implied you can get named roses from seed. The OP has bought seeds from named roses and the chance of getting the named variety from that seed is not slim. It is zero.

I made no mention of grafting. I just said that to get a clone you must propagate vegetatively. That would include cuttings, budding, in vitro as well as grafting.

The link is perfectly safe. It goes to a previous discussion on the topic on this forum. If you don't want to click it you could go back 4 years right here.

I didn't write that. It was said six years ago in the original post by somebody else.