I have an induction range with a lower oven where there's usually a storage drawer - is that the arrangement you are looking at?

No, i am talking about one that would have two ovens and no storage drawer. here is a pic of one but alot of brands seem to have them . i just dont know anyone who owns one and can give me a true opinion.

I'm looking for something similar, Lyban, so will be following. I now have a 15 YO GE Cafe gas range with a large electric oven and a small lower electric oven. Unfortunately the few times I tried to use ithe small one, it took so long to reach temperature that I never use it. It is now a storage drawer. It may be different w/an all electric range and with the smaller oven on top. I'd sure love to hear anyone's experience.

Read this thread. It brings up many good points.

Two ovens?

I had a double oven stove before I remodeled kitchen. It was great. Used small oven often, and Big oven for holidays or parties. Used the big oven for extra pot and pan storage. I know nothing about the brands or quality.

localeater, looks like you love love your double ovens. can you help me understand somerhing. can the top smaller oven take the place of a toaster oven. i use my toaster oven alot but it uses valuable counter space so i would love to be able to eliminate it.

Lyban, what do you use your toaster oven for? I have never really understood the purpose of a toaster oven. I have a 2 slice pop up toaster for toast. If I make a tuna melt(open face), I use a broiler. If reheat a slice of pizza, I use the oven.

I use it alot for two baked potstoes. for pizza, warming up anything that would nor be gpod in a microwave. toasted bagels etc.

Got it. I think it can be a replacement. It preheats very quickly, and uses less energy than big oven. It may even use less than toaster oven because it is better insulated(thats a bit of a guess)

I'm hoping my oven dies soon so I can get an induction oven. I didn't know about the double ovens. I use my Breville toaster oven as a second oven a lot too, but the reality is that when I want to be sure of results, I use my big oven. The Breville is used more to reheat or to bake small items, especially since we don't have a microwave. As much as they claim their "Smart Oven" toasts perfectly, it doesn't. One side gets browner and I have to flip it. I would gladly replace it with a toaster if I had a small oven. The broiler doesn't really broil either.

I could probably do all by baking in the upper oven except on Thanksgiving when I have a small turkey or a turkey breast and casserole dishes. The double ovens would give you not only extra counterspace but storage for pots and pans in the lower oven, as jab mentioned. That would free up an entire drawer or two for me.

With a toaster, a microwave and the small upper oven, I don't think you'd miss your toaster oven.

@localeater -- I'm looking at that Cafe Induction range double oven too! But I read that only the lower oven is convection, which is annoying to me. Both ovens should be convection at that price point. Maybe it doesn't make such a difference when an oven is that small? What do you think of your top oven?

Also I read one review that the induction range doesn't boil water as quickly as their previous unit. Who knows, it might be user error, or maybe they got a dud. Have you used other induction ranges and if so, how is it compared to the Cafe?

One problem I have with using the top small oven is that the height of a casserole is sometimes an issue. The top of the uncovered dish is too close to the heating element so it browns excessively.

I would think the toaster oven would work better for your uses. We got a toaster oven last year and rarely use our top oven anymore, We never perfected cooking a pizza in it. Crust not done, top is, etc. Our toaster oven does a much better job.

I couldn't use our bottom oven for storage. I did a time or two and turned it on to preheat with something in there that either melted or cooked I don't remember, The kids got a good kick out of it though.

I'm not interested in any more small countertop appliances, and a toaster oven would be too small for our needs. I think the smaller oven would be perfect for us because most of the time we're just finishing / browning in there. it would take way less energy than firing up a full size oven!

I haven't seen these in person yet and plan to take a couple of casseroles and sheet pans with me when I do go, so I can see "for sure" what will fit. And I'm with you, Seattle, trying to get rid of all those small appliances that clutter up the counter.

My dad has one. Lots of things can go wrong with so many working parts. Other than that, the smaller oven is nice because that's what he mostly uses. Great for a single person or couple who only occasionally needs the whole big oven.

I have a 12 year old GE double oven range and love the two ovens. Use the top oven most often - it heats up very quickly. In fact I often do part of my recipe prep before preheating as it preheats so quickly. I use it for anything semi shallow or one rack , a tin of muffins, a casserole, a frittata, etc. I use the lower oven for multi rack baking and for big things (Dutch oven bread, Dutch oven stews, baguettes with a pan for steam underneath, turkey or chicken, etc). Lower oven does take longer to preheat (takes a good 30+ min to get to 475 or above). Use the convection now and then on the bottom oven but not that often. I would hate to go back to one oven.

One addition - the top oven is excellent for keeping things warm - pancakes, French toast, a platter etc. rack slides out easily as well.

@User Top oven is great for us. I will do any dinner in a 9x13 pan or sheet pan in that oven. If I am baking bread or using my big Le Creuset it goes in the bottom oven. Before buying, I remember being annoyed that only the bottom oven is convection. I’m over it. Water boils very very quickly. Too quickly sometimes. I just sit down with my glass of wine and barely take 1 sip before I have to hop up to put in the pasta. I love the responsiveness of the heat too, so quick to go lower, and too a very low simmer. Love Love, love love, love love.

I have a Samsung Chef induction slide-in with a double oven. Like RNmom, I find it hard to gauge cook time in the top oven to avoid burned tops. Like most of the other commenters, DH loves the top oven for the reasons they mention and always uses it when he cooks.

We have a Tovala counter steam/convection oven that I use for purposes that others use their top oven. That's probably another reason I haven't been motivated to master the top oven.

My GF has the double electric ovens, but she uses the lower oven as a warming drawer. Then I own a GE(in a rental house) that has a gas oven with an electric warming drawer below it. The top is gas also with a center burner/griddle. Link

I use my toaster oven mostly as a toaster...I wouldn't think a small oven would work well for that if that's how you were planning on using it.

Just got home and so nice to read all these replies.

localeater…i was wondering if you would mind sharing your model number of your cafe range.

jab65…good idea to bring along a casserole dish and some pans to see what fits well.

i am also wondering where is the element on both the top oven and bottom oven. if on top oven the only element is only on top then how would that be any different than broiling..

i know a lot of questions but this is a big expense item and i want to get it right.

In my double oven range, both ovens have a top and bottom element. in yhe top oven the bottom element is exposed to facilitate faster heating, and in the bottom oven it is under a panel and is a little easier to clean (i do messier baking in the big oven anyway)

I have an electric GE profile double oven that was installed in spring 2007. It still works perfectly. The top oven preheats FAST - I also wait to turn it on sometimes when using it.

The only issue I’ve had with the double oven was using the lower oven this past Thanksgiving. I was making a spatchcock turkey - and it was a little bigger than the size I wanted. Because it’s lower than a regular oven would be, the extra weight of the turkey + shallow pan = burned myself with splashing turkey juices. Luckily, it didnt leave any marks on my legs where the drippings hit, but I still have a burn mark on the back of my right hand. I’ve heard complaints related to using the lower oven because of the height difference compared to a one oven range, however, this past Thanksgiving is the only time it was an issue for me.

I’m getting ready to start a kitchen renovation - if I didn’t want to change to either gas or induction, I’d have a difficult time justifying the expense of a new one when this one works so well.

I‘ve neglected cleaning because I haven’t been feeling well so please excuse!

I put a regular sized cookie sheet in top oven to show size:

This shows how low the lower oven is to the floor:

One more comment: I have a nice toaster oven that was my mom’s - it’s in the basement because I have no need for it.

I forgot that downside. We have a double oven and now the top one is broken for good, so just using the bottom one until that one gives out. Ironically, it's the bigger heavier items you would put in the lower bigger oven, which would make it harder to get them out. Would be an issue for something like a dutch oven or big roasting pan full of meat . . . not much of an issue for my Dad but I don't have any counter space near my oven so I have to take something out and carry it across to the other side of the small kitchen before I can put it down. It definitely takes some forethought!

@Lyban zone 4 I have model CHS950P2MS1 https://www.cafeappliances.com/appliance/Cafe-30-Smart-Slide-In-Front-Control-Induction-and-Convection-Double-Oven-Range-CHS950P2MS1

Both the top and the bottom ovens have a hidden(covered) bottom heating unit in addition to an uncovered upper element that can broil.

When I was researching ranges, one thing that was very important to me is the configuration of the burners. All induction ranges I looked, and there are some I didnt look at because the price ticket was outside my justifiable range, have 1 or 2 powerful burners and remainder less power. That's fine, but I wanted the biggest power burner in the front, and some put it in the back. Those were immediate no gos for me. I have a spreadsheet of all my research. If you want it, I will email it to you. Just turn your messaging on and let me know I will send it. :)

dani, thank you for those pictures that is also very helpful.

Localeater: I would love your spreadsheet if you have the time to send to me. My messaging is open. Let me know if you send it just in case it does not go through.

Thank you so much for your help.

I have a GE Cafe dual fuel range with double ovens. The big oven is where you would expect it to be. The 2nd oven is basically the drawer at the bottom. It is very shallow. You can get a standard pyrex casserole dish in it or a tray of rolls but nothing much deeper. and it takes forever to heat up. I use it as a warming drawer mostly. Because it is so small and because you have to reach into it to add or remove the dish, I’m always afraid of burning my hands on the sides. Oven mitts are a must!

In my Samsung Chef, the largest induction burner is on the front right, two 8" are stacked on the left and a smaller burner in the middle back, where it's close to, and kind of creates a larger zone, with the back left burner.

It actually has 3 cavities, with a warming drawer on the bottom, which we mostly use for storage. But the drawer has 3 settings, whoo hoo!

@barncatz We must have the same oven. Does your power burner actually work? Ours seems to take longer than the left side ones to bring something to a boil. Same on storage for the warming drawer but it was nice to have that after having a JennAir with out that feature,

Rnmom, i think you meant barncatz up above not me.

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Silly thing about the café that I like is that the knobs are metal, not plastic. They just feel good in your hand. I also think the stove offers very precise control. Prior to this stove I had a Bosch gas stove, which I thought I loved, but it has been replaced in my heart.

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