'Sharifa Asma'?

'Enfant de France' is a very nice rose. I love 'Jacques Cartier', as who does not, but mine has been fading for some years now, I don't know why.

Big fan of Sidonie

how does Sidonie repeat for you @oursteelers 8B PNW? Do you think she’d be a candidate for pegging?

My Jacques Cartier is still a baby but so far it’s a terribly weedy grower and dwarfed by the Rose de Rescht I planted nearby at the same time. JC is still so short he is in constant danger of being engulfed by salvia and the like but he seems healthy enough otherwise and is a decent repeater so perhaps he’s just taking his time and will grow more this year.

I had forgotten about Sharifah Asma, I haven’t seen her among the DA offerings at garden centres recently, wonder if they withdrew her. I had her in a pot once and my husband forgot to water her when i was away. She was beautiful and really fragrant but I can’t remember if she was one of our Austins that could take the heat and sun.

My Sidonie has a great spring bloom and then scattered blooms the the first freeze. She is good candidate for pegging and training on an obelisk

Duchesse de Rohan is a beauty! could i wrap her around an obelisk? anyone know how the repeat bloom is in the heat?

I have 'Grandmothers' Hat' espaliered against my front porch. I live in Calfornia where summer tempetures are usually in the mid-80's F., to the low 90's.

Thisa lovely rose has side buds, so each bloom cycle continues for a long time. .

It has an old fashioned appearance, hence the name.

Fragrance is of Old Rose, and very dependable.

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Lux.

St Elisabeth of Hungary is very drought and heat tolerant in my garden (I'm in Italy,too)

Grandmother’s Hat is lovely but is it available outside the US? Ive never seen it listed here (Italy). All the helpmefind photos are American.

oh I remember your little/no watering garden @User, hope everythingis growing well this year. St Elisabeth is very nice, is 2-3m accurate or does she get very big for you?

Felicia is fluffy, pink, and sweetly fragrant. I'm not sure how it would do in scorching sun though, and I grew it in a pot so my repeat on it was not great so I can't speak to that. Annie Laurie McDowell is, I think, sold by Bierkreek. I've got a small own root plant here in the US and can confirm that it is lovely, fluffy, and fragrant. It was, in fact, the only rose I brought with me on a recent cross-country move. The individual flowers aren't huge, but it blooms a lot.

'Felicia' crossed my mind, too: it has a lovely fragrance. However, the Pemberton Hybrid Musks are generally not too happy in my conditions (heavy clay soil, summer heat and sun, droughty periods), which is a shame as I adore them.

Felicia is very pretty. My only hybrid musk is Ballerina (not sure if that’s a Pemberton HM) and its the one that shut down for longest over the summer.

I grow Salet and it's a wonderful rose and a great candidate for pegging. It naturally grows long, whippy canes which bend easily. It can also be pruned hard in the spring and grown as a shrub, which is grow I grow it most years. Mine is grown in part sun, and I get two solid flushes of bloom each season. It's a truly lovely old moss rose.

Sharifa is fragrant for sure but does better with a little afternoon shade!

"Duchesse de Rohan’ ; a consciousness-altering fragrance"..Wow! Now I need to smell this rose♡

This is TROMN - "The Rose of Many Names". It has been found and given study names as a mystery so often that Jeri and others finally got them all together to compare, and they were all the same rose! Still not identified, as far as I know, but I understand that all of them were only found in various places in CA, so probably a warm weather loving rose. I found mine a block away from my house in the yard (could not call it a garden) of an old house 15+ years ago. it is still growing there, and doing fine with no care whatever.

Pic from last year - right now it is setting buds all over - I can't wait for it to bloom!

Jackie

@Rosylady (PNW zone 8) Long, whippy bendy canes - that’s exactly what i wanted to hear about Salet. Gorgeous pics.

TROMIN is a beauty, @jacqueline9CA i love the mystery of found roses. dont suppose this one is available here unfortunately.

Based on looks alone, Pink Yves Piaget might fill the bill. But it's a florist's rose primarily, so I don't know if you can easily get it. I hear the original Yves Piaget does well in some gardens (CA especially), but I don't know about the lighter sport.

I didn’t know there was a paler Yves Piaget, interesting. I think I prefer it to the darker version, which i find a bit garish in some photos (though gorgeou in others). I’ve never seen it in real life unfortunately.

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Grandmother’s Hat is lovely but is it available outside the US? Ive never seen it listed here (Italy). All the helpmefind photos are American."

Bud wood from three different clones of "Grandmother's Hat" went to a Dutch nursery some years ago. I don't know whether it went further, but I know that some of the other things sent along with it did. So, it might be worth checking.

Jackie -- TROMN never fared well in my no-winter alkaline garden . . . which was a vast disappointment because I know how lovely it is no NoCal.

Mina,I have 2 small plants of G'ma's hat; I got them from Bierkreek, the Dutch nursery that Jeri mentions. I don't know whether they still offer it. Once mine get a bit bigger, I could send you cuttings perhaps. I'm hoping to plant one of the two out in the garden next fall,so if all goes well in a couple of years it'll be big enough...

bart bart and Mina - Grandmother's Hat has an additional great trait - it roots ridiculously easily! I sometimes have difficulty rooting rose cuttings, even using the plastic bag method. However, I heard that GH would root if you just stuck pruning cuttings in the soil next to the original plant. I did not really believe that, but I did it twice, and it worked both times! Really - that's all I did, as well of course as making sure they were well watered. It also throws up a few root suckers (mine is on its own roots) now and then. I just dig them up and pot them if I want more GHs So, if you have two plants, you can make more easily.

Mine occasionally get "Damask crud" if we have a very wet Spring, but I cut all of the mess off, and spray it with a fungicide, and it immediately puts out another clean crop of leaves & blooms, and stays clean after that for the rest of the year.

Jackie

Thanks @User that’s a kind offer. You are also welcome to cuttings from my limited collection. That sounds promising @jacqueline9CA !

I‘m still dithering but I just ordered Salet and Sidonie.

bart and Mina,

Could I get in on a cuttings swap (I'm in Italy too, of course)? I have a fair number of roses, and other plants that can be rooted from cuttings as well, if you're interested. Also, visitors are welcome, if anybody wants to come see the garden and collect bits of plants. I live in the province of Piacenza, in the hills. I've sent cuttings by mail and know it can work.

Melissa

I’d be happy to participate in a cuttings swap @Melissa Northern Italy zone 8 though i don't have a big collection. i would need talking through the best time and way to do it tH

Thanks! Think early fall--October? I think that's when I've had the best success.