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Repair or replace?

These windows are all wood frame with no leaks or condensation, original to the house ( 35 yrs) BUT there are gaps around the top on almost all of them. I can’t open them although that’s not necessary in hot muggy Georgia.
I prefer to spend money on other projects in the house such as kitchen and bathroom remodel. Things that will fetch me a
better return on investment.
Are there any pro’s that can take a look at my photos and tell me if they are reparable or not?
Also, I would love to get rid of the half moon windows on top of the single hung in my breezeway. The exterior is stone but easy to
find where I live. Is that a frivolous waste of money? should I just get rid of the star burst and wouldn’t that be just be a glass replacement?
Any advice is heartily welcomed!

Comments (14)

  • 3 years ago

    Yikes! Unfortunately I think so. I can’t budge them.

  • 3 years ago

    You said that the windows are single hung? And that the gaps are at the top of the top sash?

    Is the exterior stone or stone veneer?

    Where is this starburst?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I am with HomeSealed on this one. If the frames are racked, there are bigger issues.

  • 3 years ago

    Dennisgli, the starburst was not fully captured in the last photo. There are three in a row and the exterior is stone. The other 5 windows are the kitchen bay windows. These all are in the front of the house. If replace them I would love to get rid of the half moon star burst and make them rectangular but that will require stone work / reframing and $$$. Since we have so many other things to sink money into ( such as updating original kitchen and baths) I’m not sure it’s wise especially since we probably won’t live here for more than 5 years.
    I’ve had half a dozen window companies come out and quite frankly it’s clear I need to fully educate myself with this industry because the products and prices vary widely and not necessarily for the right reasons.
    Here is a photo of the exterior where you can see both the bay windows and the three with the outdated starburst.

  • 3 years ago

    Hi Windows on Washington, well “ if racked , there are bigger issues” comment had me scrambling to find out what racked frames mean.
    So if everything is askew does that mean that any window company I hire is going to try to fit a rectangle in a parallelogram?
    And if that’s the case, why would none of them have mentioned that? Are the sales people just trying to make the sale ( commission) and letting the installers deal with the problems?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    FYI...we would call the pattern in those half rounds above the operable window, "sunburst" grid pattern (single sunburst to be accurate).


    Racked is as it pertains to how the sash is marrying up to the frame/jamb.


    Not usually indicative of a framing issue for the house, but just a degraded and poorly installed window product that is beginning to fail.

  • 3 years ago

    Ah, thank you. I feel better now. Well we are in the midst of getting quotes for replacing them all. I don’t want vinyl for the front. Any recommendations for fiberglass or composite middle/high middle range manufacturers? It’s a wild window world out there!!😬

  • 3 years ago

    Marvin Essentials or Elevate depending on the interior look you want and Kolbe Forgent.

  • 3 years ago

    much appreciated !

  • PRO
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Your description of a rectangle into a parallelogram is exactly right. This description could fit most window installations, however to varying degrees. It does need to be identified early, as it will deterimine the best sizing for the new window.

    As WoW mentioned, in your case it likely has more to do with the original frames being poorly installed than something more serious like a sinking/shifting foundation.

    Lastly, as far as windows, the Marvin and Kolbe options mentioned above are nice, you could also consider the Okna Starmark for a more performance driven option. The latter has some availability in GA, not sure if its in your neck of the woods or not.

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks for clarifying. Marvin infinity window distributor quoted 20K for 11 windows.
    5 casement 26x73.
    3.casement 31x61
    3 small half moon over the casement.

    DH. balked! I just checked out Okna Starmark and they look very nice. Unfortunately on their website they currently show only one dealer that’s in PA. sigh.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    The manufacturer is located in PA, they have dealers all over. I know that there is one in the Atlanta area, not sure how far that is from you or which models they offer.


    On the Marvins, the Infinity is nice. Depending on the options and install type, that price doesn't sound crazy. The half rounds will drive prices up as well.


    You may have a little better luck with the Essentials or Elevate that MWM recommended above. They are widely available (the Infinity is not), so that can be good and/or bad. Good because you can find other dealers that offer those options, but bad because anyone with a pulse can buy them and calim to be a window installer... There is safety in choosing a product like Infinity or Starmark for that matter with more limited distribution, as the manufacturer will ensure that they are selling through a quality company. If you look at the others, you'll just want to do more research into the installation company.

  • 3 years ago

    That all makes sense. I guess I could use social media to see if anyone in my area has had the Marvin essential or elevate installed in their home.
    As for Okna Starmark I am in the Atlanta metro area just north of downtown. I’ll call them and see who they have down here.
    I’d love to get rid of the half moons. Never liked them so maybe just making them one solid window will be wash cost wise. lol probably wishful thinking.