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Free Standing Tub - personal experiance.

3 years ago

I would love to hear from those that HAVE put free standing tubs in and are living with it. What space did you leave from side to side and how is the cleaning around the tub? I hear nothing but negatives on this site about cleaning around the tub but I am not sure what more then dust/dog/cat hair would be around a FST.

The FST is a contemporary style larger at the top then around the base. The dimensions of the tub at the top is L 69" x W 29.5 the base length is 51". NKBA I understand says leave 21" to each side, that seems like a lot and I know most are not being put in with this kind of space. I want to have a larger vanity space and I like to be very mindful of every square inch in design.

So please tell me what is required for the cleaning, can't you just take the shower hose and wash it out from back there?

I will try and post a layout.

Comments (21)

  • 3 years ago



  • 3 years ago

    I hope you're not planning on combining the tub in the shower. That's a bad design that makes for extra work. Plus what you have designed is very tight when you first walk in. Your entry is only 35" as I read it if your vanity is the standard 21". For a toilet closet, you need at least 36". And you need the 4" for the wall.

    96" - 21" (vanity) = 75"

    75" - 40" (toilet room plus wall) = 35".

    BTW: the way you have the angled door on the toilet closet means it will never open properly.

    jjaazzy thanked cpartist
  • 3 years ago

    Cpartist, thank you for taking the time to go through what I have so far. I agree that it is tight across the front, I will know more after demo what the actual inches are as every inch counts. There are ways for me to gain an inch here and there to free up some space. Things would be easier without the toilet closet but I want to get it in there. This is not a master bathroom. Can you specifically explain to me why you are against the tub combo space?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    How are you going to clean behind the tub? It looks like it's right up against the wall.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    That doesn’t pass the space planning requirements. You cannot place a freestanding tub that close to a wall. Tubs inside showers are better done as undermounts, NOT freestanding. But, they are best not done at all.

  • 3 years ago

    There is no plumbing done yet, I am still in planning, the drawing is for just that.... placement to the wall, has yet to be determined. I am using an open shower now and it's fine, not freezing as you say, I am in Florida, freezing just doesn't happen. I have experiance in waterproofing several bathrooms and showers, last was a 10x7 space with a 7ft drain so I am aware of the costs and I guess what you quoted was for someone else doing the work. I don't get what all the issue is "behind the tub", do you all have tubs now you can't clean? What is getting back behind the tub that can't be washed out with the hand shower and sent towards the shower drain? I am open to legitimate thoughts on the matter but if you don't have one, never had one, don't have any experiance putting one in, etc. you don't have anything to add or help me here, and it's just an opinion based on no facts. As for the tight across the front, 90% of the bathrooms in S. Florida are 5ft wide at the front and they don't have the benefit of the open space that mine opens up into just beyond the door, and of those, your staring at a toilet. Would it be better if it was wider, absolutly, it would be better if I won the Lotto! But I have worked this rooms lay out and this is what has worked the best. This layout allows me to park the toilet into it's own room. If anyone out there has done this lay out and hasn't been run off I'd love to hear from you.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I do have opinions on good clearance or not on freestanding tubs and cleaning from experience. But since different folks usage of freestanding tubs and how they feel about clearances can vary I can't say my opinions are facts.

    So, make sure your plans pass code, work with your contractors, and luck to you on your project.

  • 3 years ago

    I do not have a free- standing tub, but the vast majority that are shown and discussed are completely separate from a shower enclosure. So the cleaning issues tend to revolve around how to mop, or wipe floor with cleaning cloths, getting the baseboards or other shed clean.

    The other thing about having a tall sided free- standing tub within a “ wet room” is how to get in and out without slipping & falling. And there are many discussions about where to put bath products, towels nearby.

  • 3 years ago

    What are your plans for waterproofing the tub drain?

  • 3 years ago

    Thank you Marmiegard you bring up good points and I have plans to address the slip, I have large format tile that is zero slip that I used in the other BR. As for the the products, I am planning for a horizontal niche. As far as the mobility issue in and out, this is for my husband who is tall and this really is for him. The day we went to sit in tubs his back was out and managed it ok. So I think we are ok at least for the years to come, he is looking for a cold soak when he gets home. We tried an outdoor small pool years ago and the water temp gets too hot and NOT refreshing.


    Beesneeds, thank you, will do.


    Hu- I reported you.

  • 3 years ago

    Catbuilder since I have plans now to do Schluter products, I will most likely use kerdi fix and kerdi water proofing membrane around the drop in free standing drain. I have placed a call out to them last week and should hear back this week.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I got the impression that the OP cleans their shower by taking the hand shower and just sending it to the drain. Or at least they said what can't be washed out by using the hand shower and sending it to the drain and the commentary of what could be there other than pet hair and dust. There's some people that only rinse their showers or wet rooms and don't actually clean. I figured once the OP said they just rinse to the drain that it wasn't worth offering my experience on cleaning around a freestanding tub. At that point it's just my opinon and not fact and the OP don't seem too interested in opinions. Maybe the OP has a cleaning person and just don't think about if it's easy or not for the person doing the cleaning since the shower is always clean enough for just a rinse- then still it's just my opinion and not fact.

  • 3 years ago

    My daughter had one of these tubs inside the shower. Had. It wasn’t waterproofed properly and all had to be ripped out and redone. 50K, with the mold remediation and rot repair.


    That is when I researched how to do it correctly. Which wasn't worth doing. She already found it too difficult to clean. It wasn’t cold, thanks to in floor heating. But in the end, the tub went away, in favor of a nice larger shower. The tub never got used anyway.

    jjaazzy thanked User
  • 3 years ago

    You might like to look at Paul F.’s post re: picking new BR floor tile. His BR photo shows a FST in a shower area.

    jjaazzy thanked marmiegard_z7b
  • 3 years ago

    Marmiegard, I tried to find that post and was unsuccessful sorry.

  • 3 years ago

    Thank you Paul F, I was thinking about one of those. They are improving every year too. I have spoken to a few folks with this set up and they said it was not a big deal. MaryMargret, that is a gut punch to put all that effort into something and then have it done wrong, sickening. Thank you both for your help.

  • 3 years ago

    I ended up putting the tub outside the shower because I wanted a jacuzzi tub. I did waterproof the entire bathroom floor with hydroban before tiling just so I can be less careful with the cleaning behind the tub without water seeping through the tile.

  • 3 years ago

    @jjazzy a FST inside a shower that you could hose down sounds good. My FST was not in a shower but in a painted room. No shower for cleaning. It was awful! I think your idea solves the problem!

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks KL I do too.


  • 3 years ago

    For anyone doing research for the waterproofing drain for freestanding tubs. They have a Rough in fitting that gets attached to the floor flush. There is a rubber gasket that is in the center of the fitting. When you drop the tub down the pipe slides into this fitting for a seamless quick attachment. Home Depot sells it, as does other retailers. It runs from 150.00 to 185.00. https://www.homedepot.com/p/PVC-Drain-Testable-Rough-in-for-Freestanding-Tubs-ITD5135/321068940 I hope this helps others, which is why this site was created to help each other. Some just use it to ridicule people.

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