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Black gutters?

3 years ago

We just signed a contract for our first semi custom/ tract build. Going to have to make concrete decisions pretty quickly.

First picture is the builder original photo of elevation of house- I love the light brick with black and white contrast and will probably keep.

Question is… should we make the gutters on first floor black or keep white? (Second photo is my crappy attempt at replicating the look). Not changing window frames to black so want to keep a good balance between light brick, black, and white trim.

Open to any other suggestions as well!

change first floor gutter to black
keep original white gutter

Comments (21)

  • 3 years ago

    Match your gutters to whatever your eaves/fascia/soffit color is (looks like white to me). If you can match your downspout to your siding/brick it is best. Most homes look best with this feature camouflaged.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I would not select a black roof or black gutters.

    Dark ray is plenty dark.

    I would not select black shutters either. Charcoal Gray for those also.






  • 3 years ago

    We have black fascia and gutters, grey siding and downspouts. Black roof. I wouldn’t want my gutters or downspouts standing out

  • 3 years ago

    Gutters are not architectural elements. They are for water management and should be designed in a way that doesn't call attention to them ... they should blend in or disappear.

  • 3 years ago

    Look who didn't get the consensus blender's verdict.


    Royal Institute of British Architects House of the Year 2022

  • 3 years ago

    I wonder if that is a stock gutter color?


  • PRO
    3 years ago

    The issue with your rendering of what black gutters might look like is you included all the white trim in your black, when in reality there would still be a lot of white showing. I’d just stick to white like the original photo, the gutters aren’t even noticeable

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    IMO that is one ugly house I mean the one from Britain . As for your plan I sure do not like the white and that single archen window is all wrong. Go gutters that blend with the brick they are not decor items

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    A gutter on a traditional style house is a very important architectural feature since it forms the outer horizontal edge of the roof "Cornice". On a new house the cornice can be a box/boxed cornice, a close/closed cornice or an open cornice. Since your house has a horizontal soffit under the the cornice, it's a box cornice.

    A formed sheet metal gutter on a box cornice typically has an abbreviated S or ogee shape and is attached to a facia board to mimic the Cyma and Corona of an ancient Greek temple cornice. The Romans continued the tradition but gave these elements different names and we now call the S shape of the Cyma a Crown and the Corona a Facia. The front edge of the gutter should align with the projected plane of the sloping roof to maintain the classical profile and (where appropriate) avoid damage from sliding ice.

    Turn-of-the-century cornices sometimes put the gutter in the roof slope to preserve the traditional cornice profile.

    So, be careful to not visually separate the gutter from the rest of the cornice assembly by making it black. Where the gutter/cornice passes over the Roman Tuscan order tapered porch columns, a black gutter would look like a contractor mistake. If you want to reduce the prominence of the white trim, make it all a warm medium or dark gray including the columns and windows. There should be no mixing.







    Georgian



    While I'm at it: breaking the second story cornice with a half round arch is unique to the French Second Empire style which is not a good idea on an American Colonial Revival house where breaking the cornice is reserved for towers and gabled wall dormers.

    And why stop the second floor before it intersects the cross gable? IMO the roof "wedgie" created there will involve copper and flexible self-adhering flashing to avoid water intrusion issues and its such a common builder-developer tract house cliche. And ditch the cupola, somehow make the porch spans equal and let the porch beam show to avoid the appearance of a floating cornice.

    If you want dark shutters consider a very very dark green rather than black.



  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Here is a house with dark (but not black) trim, gutters and porch posts and white windows. It was labeled online as a Craftsman but it's more of a TideWater South / Raised Cottage style.

    It woud help to know the location of the OP's project.



  • 3 years ago

    Thanks all for your feedback.

    I am in Kentucky. Unfortunately since this is a production build, I don’t have a huge array of choices (especially in roof color choices- only 2). To be fair, I am not in any way overly educated in architecture and I am just happy to finally be moving out of my 1983 boxy colonial home.

  • 3 years ago

    What is your other roof color option?

  • 3 years ago

    The architecture part should be easy. What makes it difficult is not knowing what the options and limitations are.

    Your old house was a Colonial probably with a symmetrical facade and center entrance. this house is a Colonial Revival with some inappropriate features.

    Ask your builder what can change.

  • 3 years ago

    Ask the builder if the arch can be a gable and the face of the second story can continue to the left without a setback

  • 3 years ago

    Gutters aren't a feature. They should not be noticed thus they should match the trim they are hanging from.

  • 3 years ago

    We have actually decided to go with a completely different elevation so this discussion is no longer relevant. Thank you for all the input and comments. I cannot find a way to delete the thread.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    There is no one rule for gutters. Gutters absolutely are a feature, as explained by Res2architect. Here's a before photo of mine:


    and here is the after photo:


    My gutters do not match the trim that they hang from, and I did not like them when they did. Mine are a metallic copper color and blend it better with the exterior door and with the color of the patio.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I see black gutters being much better suited on a contemporary/modern house than on a traditional house like yours.

  • 3 years ago

    Lars your gutters look extremely utilitarian. I know there are some price points that have copper gutters and it's a whole design thing. That is rare and personally I never want anyone to look at my home and say "oh nice gutters"! But it's good you are proud of yours!!