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I need help identifying why my rose canes are dying please

3 years ago

Hello, I have a two year old Wollerton Old Hall rose that seems to be dying, and I'm unsure of the cause. it did great last year and this spring, but as summer cane in I've noticed some of the canes beginning to dry out and turn brown. It started with just one, but now seems to have spread to the whole plant. It is very hot this summer, but it gets plenty of water (a long, deep water 1-2 times weekly depending on rain) and the other roses near it seem to do well on that watering schedule. I sprayed all the roses once in early spring, but I have not been feeling well lately and I haven't kept it up like I should have. I am not a very experienced rose grower, so I am not much good at identifying various diseases yet. I like this rose and would hate to lose it, so I really hope it can be saved. Could this be stem canker? I'll try to add photos. Thank you for any help you can give in identifying what's wrong with my poor rose!

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  • 3 years ago

    E C: sorry about your rose plant. could it be that the root was damaged? I lost 6~7 roses last winter because moles dig them out of ground. Just try to lift the plant a bit and feel if it is loose?

    E C z7 southeast thanked forever_a_newbie_VA8
  • 3 years ago

    Thank you for the response! I haven't pulled at it yet to find out, it's behind some other by so a bit hard to get to, and it was 105f out today so I did my best to stay indoors. I'll give that a try though next time I do go out. I don't think I've ever seen evidence of moles in my yard though, is there anything else that can do that?

  • 3 years ago

    I got out there and checked it this morning. It isn't loose at all, it's firmly rooted, but some of the canes look bad at the base I think? I am not experienced enough to know if this is normal or not.




  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    The base gives me hope. That looks pretty good.

    Is there a watering issue with the one plant? Has an emitter clogged?

    E C z7 southeast thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 3 years ago

    lack of water was also my first thought. Could you poke around the circumference of the plant and confirm the soil is moist and easy to penetrate? I always find patches of my garden where the water simply has not soaked in. I spend an enormous amount of time making sure that every plant gets its water.

    E C z7 southeast thanked BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
  • 3 years ago

    Checking the emitter is the first thing I thought to do, it seems to be working properly, and my soil seems to be moist enough. Perhaps I let it go too long without water at some point and that damage showed up later? I don't think I did, and the other roses on the same schedule seem ok, but I don't know what else could be happening. I am glad the base looks good to you, thanks for letting me know that's ok!

  • 3 years ago

    Any chance of stem girdler? Does the damage go all the way to the bottom?

    E C z7 southeast thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 3 years ago

    One cane is damaged all the way to the base, but I don't think I see anything restricting it. How would I know if it has stem girdler?

  • 3 years ago

    There would be a thick area on the cane and it dies above that thickened area.

    E C z7 southeast thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I don't see anything like that, fortunately. I also looked up stem girdler, and its range doesn't appear to reach Arkansas if I'm reading what I found correctly, though I know pests and diseases can certainly be found outside their official range sometimes.

    We just had a ton of rain, and I have rechecked the water lines, so now all there really is to do is watch the rose and see if it gets worse I suppose.

    Thank you everyone for your help!

  • 3 years ago

    just to update, unfortunately the rose continued to die, even after I sprayed it and pruned put the dead growth quite a bit below the blackening areas. I'm pretty sure it's completely dead now, so I can only guess this was some kind of disease after all. I know the blossoms appeared to have botrytis spots in spring, can that eventually kill a bush? If I see no life after a while, I'll dig it up and check the roots to see if I can spot anything else that might have been wrong. Thanks again for everyone's help!

  • 3 years ago

    Do let us know what the roots looked like and if the soil is dry. I would dig it up now. It is not coming back from this.


    E C z7 southeast thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR