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induction range and fridge

last year

Any reviews of the following induction/convection ranges?

LG LSE4616ST
GE Profile PHS93XYPFS
Frigidaire Gallery GCR13058AF

Any other brands to consider?
(cafe, Bosch, Miele, jenair)

Also looking for recommendations for a mid size (33 inch) fridge:

  • counter depth, French doors or single door with bottom freezer

Thanks so much!

Comments (21)

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    There are a few threads here on induction ranges. Do a search using google because the Houzz search isn't very good. :)

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    Yes, I checked a few out, but was hoping for more info. The google search continues lol. Thanks and have a great day!

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    Gaggenau does not make a range. But you can stick one of their ovens underneath one of their induction tops, so essentially the same thing. Gag's induction uses the entire cooktop for cooking (don't have to just put the cookware in defined circles). So there are no circles drawn on the cooktop like all the other brands. You can use any size pot. But you pay for the thrill. Tradeoff.


    I don't know how good Cafe is, but they have a lot of nice looking things. Ditto with Samsung.

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    Consumer Reports ($10/month digital) has ratings of all three induction ranges. It also has refrigerator ratings. You can find lots -- often hundreds, even thousands -- of owner reviews for ranges. refrigerators, and other appliances on sites such as Home Depot, Best Buy, and Lowes.

    I have the LG LSE4617ST which was the upgraded version of the LSE4616ST. It works well. Apparently both are discontinued. The LSIL6336F is new and has some improvements: the up/down control for setting the oven temperature, timer, etc. has been replaced with a keypad and the crosses that indicated the borders of the induction elements have been replaced with circles.

    You know that the Frigidaire Gallery range is a freestanding range, not a slide-in range like the others. The new Frigidaire FCFI3083AS is a bargain at $1200 (at Best Buy).

    Putting an oven under a cooktop results in an oven door that is very low to the floor, not to mention much more expensive to buy and more difficult to install (ranges are easy). Gaggenau appliances are extremely expensive, some ridiculously so. You can do better with another BSH corporation appliance brand, Bosch.

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    I really like the Fisher & Paykel refrigerators in that size--they have both single and french door options in that width. They also have a nice induction range, but it's quite a bit more than the ones on your list. I'm hoping to get it anyway since it fits our kitchen well and gets good reviews, but it's definitely splurge-y.

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    Thanks for all the comments! Very helpful.

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    @Melissa B: Before considering a $5,500 (minimum) Fisher & Paykel range, be sure to read the User Guide starting on page 28 to see the tiny, archaic controls for setting delay cook, cook time, timer, and other functions. Compare to the controls (e.g., keypads, large digital displays) on the modern ranges you're considering.

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    LOL, the controls are one of the biggest reasons we may splurge for the F&P! My partner really hates keypads and anything digital, and his wish list includes knobs and no digital displays. But then again, we're replacing a 70-year old gas range, so archaic is all relative--we use a mechanical timer now. Luckily there's a range out there for everyone. (Another we're considering is the Aga, which is a little closer to being digital-free.)

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    How do we feel about Samsungs? They are cheap and have knobs. And they are actually available! :)


    F&P is super cute. The oven is smallish (I bet Artemis thinks it's huge!). I've always liked their dishwashers. I'm sure the technology translates directly. Hehe.


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    @Fori yes, the small oven is also a selling point for our family--but that's in part because we're doing a 36" range, so a different set of [more limited and pricier] options and many of them have quite large ovens that seem like they'll take forever to preheat. (I looked briefly at the Ilve range, too, which has a two-oven model, but they are a little too small for our needs--the larger one can't take a half sheet pan, which even our vintage 24" oven can handle.)

    Haven't researched the Samsung since it doesn't come in 36" currently, I don't think (or at least I haven't encountered it in my search).

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    @artemis78: "his wish list includes knobs and no digital displays"

    Values are still displayed digitally, they're just in that tiny circle and hard to set -- via tiny knobs -- and read, made worse by the location perpendicular to the floor rather than angled upwards towards the cook's face.


    The Samsung NE63B8211SS is a bargain at $1200; I'd compare it with the Frigidaire FCFI3083AS if one's on a budget. The NE63T8911SS and "Flex Duo" NE63T8951SS have the cool virtual flame that indicates the elements' power level (LG ranges have similar indicators). However the Samsung induction ranges have lower predicted reliability than LG and Frigidaire per CR.

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    A 36" range's oven is the main reason not to get a 36" range! (Retrofitting is another issue of course.) Smaller oven would be better in that case for sure.


    Bertazzoni is another knobbed range that is ridiculously cute (I mean, it's an appliance. It has no business being cute). Reviews on those are all over the place.


    I'm tempted to yank the top parts out of my gas range and drop in an induction cooktop. A whole new meaning to "dual fuel". I rarely use the huge gas oven since I have a small electric wall oven. That's sure to meet code! (Wait. Would it?) (Never mind. I'm not really considering this.) (although....)

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    WDC, I actually like the look of the Frigidaire, but I've decided that if I can't have the overlapping cooktop (and I suspect I can't because I'm retrofitting and measurements are fussier) I want KNOBS!

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    Bosch has new 'industrial' design ranges with knobs.

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    @Fori, the Bosch has knobs too so might be worth looking at if it's not already on your list. Not sure if the OP has a preference on knobs v. no knobs though.

    We didn't find the F&P values particularly hard to read (though appreciate that in 20 years we might!) But again, that may just be driven by what we're used to--and of course we haven't used it regularly and might have a different lens if we did. Partner would still prefer the display not be there at all, though, so that is a plus to the Aga for our particular needs--I just haven't found as many reviews of their induction technology. But most people don't have that constraint (and for many, the digital screens and smart features are a plus).

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    Yeah, looking at the knobbed Bosch. It's alright. The Bosches are better than many in that the stainless strip along the front of the sides is a few inches (and exists) so that it won't look as bad sticking out extra, which mine is going to do.


    I don't like futzing around with touchpads, especially when I'm grubby.


    I think you'll have to have some sort of display, Artemis. I guess my first induction cooktop just had a light next to the selected option and no display, but it wasn't a range. And it was a bit older. It was better than new touchpad models that require many touches. Welcome to 1983:




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    I have had the Bertazzoni Master 36" induction range since 2019 and love it! I have had no issues with it.

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    Moosemac, did you get a color? I don't need color but I gotta admit I love the colors...


    Are the sides finished? They never show the sides online!

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    Mine is stainless steel and yes the side are finished in SS.

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    This was taken during the renovation.

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    Thanks! It does look good, doesn't it?!