Disease resistant *WHERE*????

Hi Diane. Thank you much for your endorsement of Ebb Tide and Mustead! I find that the more I garden, the more I'm drawn to brighter and darker flowers. They really stand out in the landscape. I saw Boscobel in bloom at a nearby nursery in spring. It smelled so amazing and was so gorgeous. The only reason why I didn't pick it up right then is because I already had 10 bare root roses waiting at home to plant! Being new to roses, I wasn't sure how I'd feel about the additional care and attention they need. However, I'm finding that they are well worth the effort and I actually enjoy fussing over them.

I also should add that my name is not actually Leda, but I appreciate the compliment... perhaps I could use that nickname on this forum! ;) Leda is the name of one of the roses I am considering, a white damask. Here's the listing on HMF: https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.3777. The red edging on white blooms is just too irresistible!

Rose de Rescht is much healthier than La Reine for me although I do like them both.

I don’t have Benjamin Britten but Dianela raves about him. Lady Emma and Boscobel are great, I’d give the nod to Emma for fragrance

Leda is new to me this year so not much to report but she sure is pretty

Where are you? Gardening is specific to location.

Rose de Rescht, small blooms out of proportion with its large foliage, very short necks, extremely fragrant....I would pass on this rose.

Jacques Cartier, very frequent repeater, extremely fragrant small (3"), blooms in small but numerous clusters, best button centers of any OGR I have seen, mature height in W. PA, zone 6b, 3' tall, 2'wide, will develop a trunk in time, very vertical growth habit, no spray for black spot makes it remarkable for this, flower stems do not nod, but short necks are an annoyance in an almost perfect rose. Its very columnar growth means not a rounded form with most of its blooms in top 1/4 of bush. Performs best on multiflora rootstock, IMHO, puttered around doing much of nothing for a couple years own root. Got booted. Multiflora brings out all its spectacular traits. Get this one, pass on Rose we Rescht, especially since you have room for a limited number of roses. Choose carefully.

Moses

@Diane, just wanted to add that your photos of Ebb Tide, Munstead, and Boscobel are unreal! Such healthy looking plants and such prolific blooms! Drooling! :)

@oursteelers, thank you so much for the advice! Where'd you buy your Leda from, if you don't mind me asking?

@Moses, I appreciate hearing about your experience with Rose de Rescht. Jacques Cartier seems to be an all around well-loved rose. Glad to get the tip on buying it on a multiflora root stock. Thank you!

@Sheila, I live in the mid atlantic area, in blackspot territory. So far, I've had good luck with most of my roses. It's been very dry here this summer, and I only had a bit of blackspot on a few roses that are along a north-facing wall. Just lost some leaves but still going strong. Generally, I try not to spray.

Anyone have experience with Apothecary's Rose?

My Leda came from High Country Roses

I love Rose de Rescht here. It is healthy reblooms and is adorable.

La Reine is spectacular.

Boscobel is great here too.

Sheila, thank you so much for the recommendations!

Rose de Rescht at the Denver Botanical Gardens. A very dry climate here so idk how it will do where you are, but it is lovely here.

It is going to matter a great deal where you are. In Pennsylvania, blackspot pressure is very, very, very, very high in the southeastern part of the state. It goes down a bit as to move further west, away from the ocean, until west of the mountains it becomes merely very high. If you are in a Philadelphia type climate, growing Austins no-spray is going to be tough. The best advice I can give you is to pay no attention to comments from further west, but see what NJ, eastern Maryland, eastern Virginia have to say.

Jacques Cartier is a difficult rose to comment on since there are probably at least 2 different roses in commerce under that name. What we grew as Jacques Cartier was an upright beast of a rose that had to be pruned hard to keep it under 6 ft tall. That was the own-root version. A grafted one would have bigger. Then there is what is, for convenience is called Marchesa Boccella. It is much smaller, with more continuous bloom.

I wouldn't bother with Rose de Rescht.

It sounds like you have a small garden, so Apothecary Rose is going to be tricky. The best course of action is to buy it budded, and plant the bud union above ground so it doesn't sucker. It isn't a world dominator, but it does spread, and it seems to like to have a bit of space between the canes.

Given your criteria, if you don't already have it, get Ispahan.

@mad_gallica, thanks for the tips on Jacques Cartier differences with own root vs. grafted, and for noting about Marchesa Boccella. She sounds like she would fit in my space more easily. I do have some empty spots in the garden that are large enough for a 4-5' tall/wide shrub, but they are few!

It's interesting to hear the different opinions on Rose de Rescht. Her bloom color is so striking and with a strong fragrance. Luckily I have some time to think about it, but it's fun to start planning!

I have six David Austins currently and so far have had little issue with blackspot. I water on drip irrigation and defoliate when I see blackspot starting. I also under plant with salvia and I swear that has helped. We've had a lot of dry summers here lately, so I'm sure that's also helping to keep the blackspot at bay.

I also have a mystery rose left by a previous owner that suckers, and I definitely don't enjoy dealing with that! So it's good to know that about the Apothecary's rose. This mystery rose of mine has deep reddish-purple blooms with a strong clove fragrance. Can't for the life of me figure out what it is, but it survived construction at our house and being completely ignored for the first several years we lived here, so I've decided it deserves to stay, whatever it is. haha