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can a different water based polyurethane be applied to the original

2 years ago

2 coats of Pullman polyuerthane were applied but floors are gritty and not smooth

found a different company to buff and apply Bona polyurethane (2 coats)- they sare saying its not a problem to apply a different brand to the original Pullman Poly.

Is this true?


and is it fair to expect my floors to be smooth and not gritty?


i dont want issues with my brand new floors in a couple of years especially since i had to hire 2 companies to do 1 job :-/


Comments (27)

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Yes, you can apply another brand of water base finish on top of your current water base finish. Getting a smooth finish is based on the experience of the installer not the product.

  • 2 years ago

    wood floor guys came his morning and instead of Bona Mega they brought Loba WSeasyfinish

    is this comparable?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Same quality, same category.

  • 2 years ago

    thanks for the qucik reply! ikeep finding posts regarding Loba that water gets through and erosion of surface is evident as well as easily scratches-

    are you familiar with Loba? is it a good quality poly?


  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    they cam this moring , bufffed and applied 1 coat of Loba WS satin finish and left and said they are not coming back tomorrow - i called and said that is not what i paid for- they said they can come back on wednesday but my appliance are being deliverd Thursday/Friday and i am nervous the floors wont have time to cure-

    the flooring co is denying my second coat after taking my money and saying they only agreed to to one coat

  • 2 years ago

    https://www.loba.de/us_en/

    EasyFinish

    Light commercial and high traffic residential areas.

    Drying time

    • Earliest possible recoating after 2-3 hours.
    • Fully cured after 5 days.

    2K Supra A.T.

    Suitable for high traffic commercial areas.

    Drying time

    • Earliest possible recoating after 2-3 hours.
    • Normal traffic after 12 hours.
    • Fully cured in 3 days.


    Trimaco X-Paper 36 in. x 100 ft. Roll breathable floor protection

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    You are not having luck with honest wood flooring companies in your area. Wherever that is.

  • 2 years ago

    " the flooring co is denying my second coat after taking my money and saying they only agreed to to one coat "


    What do you have in writing?

  • 2 years ago

    The receipt says

    buff existing Hw and water clear coat

    buff existing Hw and water clear coat

    just like that - now they are saying they never agreed to 2 coats

    i am worried the floors wont have enough protection

  • 2 years ago

    where do i go from here with only 1 coat of water based poly? will that be enough?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    if, the format is in a list and it is listed twice. It would mean two coats.


    If, it is s description, then it is a typo.


    Will it be enough?


    You already have two previous coats. This one is a third. All you need is three for proper performance. If , it looks good. Negotiate a discount for the miscommunication. Although, you have already paid the balance. Your best bet is to get another coat.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    After entering the apartment we noticed the closet floors were not done properly either😕

    probably because they only had the big buffing machine🤦🏽‍♀️

    would it be fair to expect them to buff narrow areas manually?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Another company with lack of experience and resources.


    They can use hand held mouse sanders or rotary sanders. Worst case scenario, hand buff it.


    These guys are low ballers. Hopefully these guys are not Massholes.

  • 2 years ago

    They truly are- have never encountered such dishonest people - now i need another crew


    -is it safe to ask for a 2 component water based poly and have it applied once?


    -or do i get another coat of loba easy finish?

    i am not impressed with the first coat of loba that was applied

    -can this application be put on after the appliances and granite go in?

  • 2 years ago

    I cant belevevthe orginal crew wont come vack and finish the job without more money

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Yes and Yes. It's fine to go over water with water. Two components are better than the single ones.


    Yes, you can finalize after appliance and countertops are in.

  • 2 years ago

    finally found someone to do floors someone-

    he said he wil do Bona HD traffic 1 coat- this should be good ?



  • PRO
    2 years ago

    You have a few coats on already. One coat of Traffic is good.

  • 2 years ago

    we have 950 sq ft roughly to cover- Could you let me know

    how many gallons should he be using?


  • 2 years ago

    BTW, G& S thank you so much for all the info- its been an overwhelming process and i appreciate you being a source of information for me!

    any pointers to know if theperson i am working with is relaible and knows what they are doing?

    also are there are any signs i should be looking for of not using enoughproduct etc...


  • PRO
    2 years ago

    For 950 square feet, you will need three gallons of Traffic for the project. They only need 2 1/2 gallons to finish. Expect a 1/2 gallon leftover or waste. With three coats already applied, it may only take two gallons.


    A person who knows what they are doing will not rush through the project.


    Estimated time 950 sf.

    Abrading 2 1/2 hours.

    Cleaning 21/2 hours

    Coating another 2 1/2 hours


    If, they are in and out within a hour. You have trouble.



  • 2 years ago

    thanks for the advice!

    next problem- after installing stone counters, crew wiped down floors with rubbing alcohol and now there are streak marks in the pattern of the wipe- did this remove a layer of the 1 1/2 week old poly?!

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks for the helpful tips

    my next concern- what would this project be without one?!🙃

    guys who installed stone counters wiped down wood floors with rubbing alcohol or whatever strong chemical they cleaned quartz with when cleaning splatter on floor and now there is a wipe pattern on floor

    did they strip a layer ofthe polyurethane off in that area?!

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Wow, a bunch of knuckle heads working. Tgey spilled acetone on the finish. it needs a sand and finish.


    where are you located?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    So, what are your floors like now with the buffing and one coat of polyurethane? Unless there was very significant bubbling of the original poly I'm guessing the grittiness isn't from the poly but from the floor not being properly prepared and/or properly cleaned. If it's the latter I doubt you will be able to get rid of the grittiness until the floor is completely stripped and refinished. Keep us updated on your floors and good luck!

  • 2 years ago

    @ G& S -chicago

    can’t seem to catch a break

    will the final buff and 1 coat of bona traffic hd be enough to correct it? have used up our resources at thus point