I am confused as to why the DW not next to the sink. As for colors of appliances even black differs from one maker to the other and IMO no one maker makes everything well. Plain old stainless is IMO the best choice for color thta way you can buy appliances that work best for you and they all go together .

I have read many posts, that black coated stainess steel appliances scratch easily down to the stain nless steel. I would go with the plain stainless steel appliances.

Thanks for the feedback. There is a scullery off to to the right which has a double sink and the DW will go in there.

What a strange comment! its pretty standard to have a scullery off your kitchen where you can keep your dirty dishes etc out of sight. Especially with open plan kitchens into your living room. Unfortunately we not prepared to knock down our scullery at this stage 🤣

Why is the cook not in your pictures? No matter finishes, locations matter most if you want efficiency in cooking. Is the hob black with stainless? Stainless in appliances IS forever, and all brands virtually inseparable in looks. Overthinking colors and finishes in any kitchen will result in a jumble of disjointed, and it is unnecessary as well.

The scullery/pantry is up to you as to where you clean up a meal, but perhaps you want to show this floor plan flat on paper /2 dimensions with all dimensions noted.

Either way, I would strongly consider a TWO dishwasher scenario and locate one next to that sink.

Thanks Jan, we’ve not installed the hob yet. Its a gas hob on glass its all black. I will try post the floor plan later. Thanks for the help!

I'll answer the question you asked, not give you opinions on things you didn't ask about (which drove me batty when I was asking some questions) -- definitely go with stainless steel if those are your only 2 options.

Ignore the fact the cook top ( induction? ) is black. Stainless all else,including fridge. And a second DW, DESPITE you did not ask. You really want to travel with the gunk on plates, or drip the water on the floor after a rinse.....?

I vote stainless steel.

also, I have a dishwasher in the butlers pantry and I love it. I also have a dishwasher next to the main kitchen sink. Both get used.

Am going to vote for classic stainless steel as well.

I’m not really following all the terminology here, but I had a black floating glass fridge in an open concept space, and I loved it. It went perfectly with the black glass on the range. It reflected light at night a little. I don’t know if they still sell them.

I’m not a fan of black metal appliances. They are OK if they are somewhat hidden.

Personally, I would recommend stainless steel as it contrasts well with your hardware and fixture. See an example here of a recent kitchen we renovated. White kitchen with dark island and stainless steel appliances. Timeless!

Gather you are in the UK (with reference to hob), so not sure what is available and how important it is for you to have the exact finish. There should be lots of fridges, etc to choose from as black is being used more and more (one UK link below). I think your kitchen will be stunning and the island, dark beam and black windows will all lend themselves to the look.

https://kaiser.co.uk/products/art-deco-french-door-fridge-freezer-leather-handles-black

Another option is adding fridge panels to suit your cabinetry.

Normal people just have a kitchen.

WHERE is the cooking happening? And where is the hood that gets rid of all the odors and greast that cooking produces? The zones in this kitchen are very very strange, and will involve a massive amount of walking, without getting any work done.

Example: Fisher & Paykel - ActiveSmart 20.1 Cu. Ft. French Door Counter-Depth Refrigerator - White

KitchenAid - 30" Built-In Double Electric Convection Wall Oven - White

Stainless for sure. The black looks like an accident.

Just out of curiosity, because sculleries are coming up more on Houzz and I'm not familiar with how they work, can you educate me a bit about them? Do you walk all of your pots and pans and dishes and glasses into the scullery to get cleaned in the dishwasher or is it more so for dishes and glasses? Then when you empty the dishwasher do you carry the items back into the main kitchen, or are they stored in cabinetry in the scullery? If you have a ton of dirty objects in the kitchen do you take it all by hand into the scullery with lots of trips back and forth or do you have a cart or a tray you carry them all on? Just trying to get a feel for how the logistics of this work in a modern day house.

Stainless, for sure.

Shouldn't the oven doors have swung to the right (or downward) so one didn't have to go around to the right side of the oven (and away from the island) to open a door? Or maybe the idea was to protect the adjacent refrigerator from the heat(?) What does one put in those little cubbies at the end of the row of cabinets? Does it seem odd to have put molding at the top of the right-hand row of cabinets while omitting them from the left? I see why there are none at the left due to the sloping ceiling but would it have been more consistent to omit them entirely?

Thanks everyone for the feedback!

The renovated kitchen looks very good!

I like the examples given of the black and white appliances. White would have been nice however we already have the double oven that's in the picture

The scullery is also a new concept to us as not had in previous properties so going to have to see how it pans out and best way to work things. The 2nd DW would have been good maybe at a later stage,

We originally wanted the molding throughout however as you have noticed didn't do so because of the slanted ceiling, we probably could have omitted it but don't think it looks too bad as is. I hate the dirt that gathers above the tops of these cupboards! We have the molding in the scullery too. I must admit we didn't give much thought to the swing of the oven doors. Cubbies is supposed to be a wine rack.

The scullery is also a new concept to us as not had in previous properties so going to have to see how it pans out and best way to work things.

That is quite a leap of faith designing a kitchen without figuring out how the scullery works! I'll be eager to hear how it pans out.

Does everyone on this thread have a perfect kitchen ? The meanness here is uncalled for .

"The 2nd DW would have been good maybe at a later stage,"

To make that easy to retrofit, a separate cabinet adjacent to the sink should be 18" or 24" wide and an electrical outlet should be installed under the sink. The sink in the photo looks very small for a kitchen.

“Black” appliances can be different shades. I think stainless is a better idea.

I’m with Kendra - I hope you’ll let us know how the scullery works out!

Does everyone on this thread have a perfect kitchen ?

Probably not, but I do find that the motivation behind comments often interpreted as mean are actually made by benevolent people who really want to help others make their kitchen as close to perfect as possible.

I would like to think I you are right Kendrah. But many of the points posters are making are about things that cannot easily, affordably be redone . She asked about appliance color , not for a full blown critique.

I like the look of the black refrigerator better. I have a black stainless steel dishwasher in my house, and it has never been scratched where the silver stainless steel color shows through.

" but I do find that the motivation behind comments often interpreted as mean are actually made by benevolent people who really want to help others make their kitchen as close to perfect as possible. "

Whether the poster wants that or not. They want to help others make their kitchen into what they think is perfect, whether or not it's perfect for that poster or poster's family. it happened all the time when I was renovating my kitchen, and it's more than a little annoying to be told that what you're asking about is immaterial because your plan is flawed from the start (when it isn't flawed and was perfect for you).

I just mentally filter out the comments that are not important to me or won't fit my budget or the timeline of the project. My life and family are so atypical that most people will miss the mark on what works for us, so I just educate them or move on. Even if the comments aren't within the bounds of my project, I do learn from them none the less.

(I come from a culture of opinionated people and have thick skin. Perhaps I've gotten training for this at a young age. The pros and cons of online forums - ya get to meet all kinds of folks who communicate in many ways that you might not end up being in proximity to in real life.)

I agree with Kendra that most people come from a place of trying to help. However, it seems to be a pattern on the internet that when you ask for help with “A” you will get all the other letters you didn’t ask for. You may ask about a couch but some people will comment on the whole room - and everything in it.

I know from being around talented people that they just can’t “not see” the design mistakes and are trying to be helpful by speaking about the flaws that are obvious to them. As a poster on this website, you gotta be prepared for that.

And you need to learn to ignore the A-H comments on every site.

Thanks everyone! i have more questions to ask about direction of vinyl flooring and placement of a freestanding fireplace but maybe i shouldnt go down that rabbit hole 🤣

Why would you direct your questions to those of us in the US? I don't ask those in Britain for advice on design because the variables are not comparable.

Then just scroll on by!

I would encourage you to ask about the flooring. Now you’re warned - ignore the comments that go off topic.

Stainless

Thanks for feedback! Can I ask in here about flooring direction, vinyl flooring throughout house except bathrooms, which direction to lay flooring? Vertical (down towards frameless doors) or horizontal throughout

"Normal people just have a kitchen". That comment is the most ignorant (lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated) of anything I have read on houzz in my 13 years here. And, yes, you can be a Brit and ask us Yanks about a color. Color, the last time I looked, is international.

I'm going with black for the 'fridge. Have you considered painting that wall of cabs/appliances the black of the island?

The new black appliances here have this fabulous matte black finish. Maybe do just those cabs in a matte black finish as well.

If you decide you don't like whatever it is that you pick, I recently saw someone who used vinyl wrap (like you see on boats and cars) to change the appearance of their kitchen appliances. fyi

Thanks elcieg, that's something to consider.

I would lay the flooring in the longest direction. I am looking at building a deck (not exact comparison, but stay with me) and one contractor suggested laying the boards the “shorter” direction. My brain immediately knew it would look wrong.

On a diagonal is beautiful, and expensive because of the waste, but can be very interesting in a long area. You can play with these looks on several flooring websites to see what looks good in your house. Some flooring comes in herringbone if you like that look.

My immediate instinct is what I believe you are calling vertical - the length strecthed from you kitchen windows down to the veranda. Looks like you have tiles in the scullery and in your entry. What size and shape are they? Just wondering if that influences the direction for your other flooring.

Thanks Kendrah. We getting the vinyl done everywhere except for bathrooms. Plans not correct showing tiles 😅