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Suggestions for a big continual bloom machine

3 years ago

Hi! Long time lurker (5+ years) first time poster, I'm in zone 6b Pennsylvania. I'm looking for rose recommendations for a spot in my yard near the edge of my property that's about an acre and a half away from our house. It will be in front of two large evergreens but plenty of space as it wouldn't be directly next to or under those trees. It would be up on a bit of a tall bank and receive full sun from 11am till sun-down so it would be under a bit of a heat stress


I'd like a rose that gets big (not like monster will cover the trees big) but big enough to see from my house so I can see it. I don't want one that's not super upright, want something rounded or fountain in shape (or could be pegged to be that). I don't have anything down there to support a climber but if it's not a stiff climber that would work. Fragrance and color isn't important, except nothing too dark because I'd want to be able to see the roses from a distance, Main want is that it is a bloom machine that continually goes and goes so I can enjoy it all season long


Thanks!

Comments (21)

  • 3 years ago

    Flamenco Rosita?

    Elestrial 7a thanked Karen Service
  • 3 years ago

    Darlow's Enigma

    Elestrial 7a thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 3 years ago

    The Poet's Wife is a blooming machine and has a lovely fountain shape (also has great fragrance). It can get large, but would fit what you describe in your post.

    Elestrial 7a thanked User
  • 3 years ago

    Or, some older ones...Sally Holmes, Flutterbye, Redcoat, Dapple Dawn, Lady of the Dawn, James Mason, Linda Campbell, Isabella Skinner (Victorian Memory), Belinda's Dream, Belinda's Blush, Carefree Beauty, Champaign Arches, Lilian Gibson, Nevada, Scharlachglut, Westerland... and a host of other larger shrubs to short climbers grown freestanding. I'd imagine "repeat bloom" wouldn't be that much of an issue in your zone as once-flowering types should flower most, if not all, of your rose season because of the length of that season in Zone 6.

    Elestrial 7a thanked roseseek
  • 3 years ago

    My first thought was also Flamenco rosita, but

    Roseseek is very knowledgeable and I would take his advice for certain since my zone is warmer. Flamenco repeats here from Mid April to first hard freeze but that sometimes doesn’t happen until late November here.

    Elestrial 7a thanked dianela7analabama
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Check out below pic. of Carefree Wonder (a bit lighter pink than Carefree beauty), posted by Jeffcat in Columbus Park in Ohio:

    'Carefree Wonder' rose photos (helpmefind.com)

    I once saw Carefree beauty (along the road side) while I was driving, it took my breadth away as to its beauty. Carefree Celebration below at nearby rose park did the same to me .. it was like WOW !! But Carefree Celebration doesn't repeat as well as Carefree Beauty. I took below Carefree Celebration pictures in November with my gloves on in freezing temp. in my zone 5a, Chicago sub:



    Below is an internet pic. of Carefree beauty, Carefree wonder is a bit taller plant.


  • 3 years ago

    @Karen Service @Dianela Thank you! Flamenco Rosita is definitely on my short list. Hubby is unsure about the color so might have to ease him into that. "It's shockingly pink" was his first comment


    @Robert Poet's wife is fabulous, I'm just leery to get another DA because they seem to not be as disease resistant as some of my other roses here. Not all, some are fabulously healthy. But the only roses with blackspot in my yard are some of my DA's :(


    @Roseseek Hey you! Thanks for the list - I'm definitely going to be digging through those on HMF. I have been hesitant getting any one-time blooming roses since I have a lot of very large one time blooming perennials (like some large 20 year old wisterias). I pop the roses near those to add some color when those perennials are done. I could always make an exception though. PS. I have a couple Annie Laurie McDowell's getting propagated for me, very excited to try growing her here!


    @strawchicago Oh man that looks amazing!



  • 3 years ago

    @mad gallica Sorry, forgot to reply. Darlows enigma is on my short list, have gotten a few suggestions for him. Thanks!

  • 3 years ago

    Darows Enigma, Pink Pet, Brise Parfum Antony Waterer, Tooth Fairy, Ballerina, Belindas Dream, Ascot, Daydream, Emma June, Flamenco Rosita,Gold Blush, The Fairy, Carefree Beauty, LaMarne, Neon Red.

    I would especially recommend DE, PP, BP..... Who am I kidding, this all perfor mverry well here in Cincinnati. Ill try to likn them.

  • 3 years ago

    Harkness Robin Hood is another good one, but it is red as are a few of y pror choices above such as Ascot, Daydream, FR and Anthony Waterer.

  • 3 years ago

    Another one to consider is Seafoam.

    Anything red will fade into the background.

    Disease resistance is going to be vital, and your blackspot pressure is a lot higher than it is for most of the people on this thread. So I'm surprised you can grow any Austins no spray, and I'm interested in which ones.

  • 3 years ago

    How about Stanwell Perpetual? Utterly cold-hardy in your area. Builds somewhat slowly but ends up big. Repeats well. It is very thorny, but otherwise a great rose.

  • 3 years ago

    @ Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley Thank you! I'll check those out. Hoping to grab Ascot this year from Palatine for another area in my garden, I usually can get it in my cart but it's sold out before I can check out. Fingers crossed


    @ mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY) This zone is very humid for sure. At my old house I think all of my roses and a lot of my plants got some degree of disease. My tomatoes were always the worst. At my new house I'm in a bit of an interesting situation - very open wide yard backed by a grassy horse pasture and some corn fields that stretches for miles without any trees, hills, or wind breaks. There is always a breeze coming through from that pasture, and then on windy days it gets incredibly windy here, can't even open the back door. Storms are nerve wracking - we watch the trees practically go sideways and I'm always amazed that they don't topple over. All of our trellis' we had to secure with rebar that goes down several feet with concrete at the bottom. Almost all of my roses are exceptionally healthy, not a single spot of disease. It has to be the air circulation, I'm not doing anything special with them. The biggest battle for me is the japanese beetles when they're active.


    My DAs that have no disease at all are Desdemona, Golden Celebration, Lady of Shalott, and Eustacia Vye. My Munstead Wood was completely disease free until about 3 weeks ago after a long steady few weeks of daily rain. I did plant it in a very exposed spot though because I read it is not the most healthy. Has a little bit of black spot on the lower leaves but otherwise healthy. My worst rose covered in blackspot head to toe and half defoliated is Tess D'Ubervilles. I would replace her but my husband gave me that one as an anniversary gift so I keep her and just accept her ugly foliage.


    @ malcolm_manners Very pretty - thanks! Thorns are fine with me, nothing can be worse than my Munstead Woods


    @ Paul Barden Thank you! I might go with that one since that keeps getting suggested. I have a white house so white roses would match well

  • 3 years ago

    I was going to suggest seafoam because that's a great plant here also which I grow 3 but I thought it might be too low for her purposes. Darla's enigma gross tall and would have a large presence to be seen from the far. Harvard most of my seafoam are fairly young so that maybe why they are so low. Excuse any misspellings because I use voice recognition when I type it's even worse. I also try to type On a file and then copy it and that goes insane also. I hope you can make out what I'm trying to say.

  • 3 years ago

    @Vapor According to HMF it is a smaller bush, but it does look very pretty so I might pop it into some other beds

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    What about a hybrid rugosa like Therese Bugnet? You'd get fall foliage color and hips for birds and winter interest.

  • 3 years ago

    @Reb I've never grown one and aren't too familiar with them, any suggestions on which one?

  • 3 years ago

    Brittany Rockwell I'm fairly new to growing them, only have one so far, but I'm planning on adding more. I edited just as you were asking to say Therese Bugnet. I think a rugosa is great for an area you see from a distance, especially if you're not looking for something high maintenance. You will not need to do any pruning or supporting, or special amending. Some of them sucker a bit, but you might not mind getting more roses out in that spot? Or, your yearly maintenance could be clipping back suckers.

  • 3 years ago

    Another vote for Darlow’s Enigma. Really is carefree.

  • 3 years ago

    @Reb Thanks! I'll look into that one. Always open to trying something new


    @Oursteelers Thanks - that's the by far most suggested