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Ovens WITHOUT handles.... Yes or No?

2 years ago

What are your thoughts with wall ovens without handles? These handless ovens seems to be the newest best thing for makers like Wolf and Miele.


Does anybody own one? Do you recommend?

What's your experience?




Comments (27)

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    No thought as I see nothing wrong with a handle on an oven: )

    It's an oven. I see no reason to add risks for the aesthetic of making an oven visually disappear -it isn't the living room, it's a kitchen.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I am in the camp of appliances are bought for function first always and I like my appliances to look like what thye are no panels to match cabinets either . If those are handless how do they open ? MY big thing is I amwaiting for Neff to bring their ovens to NA the way they function makes so much sense.

  • 2 years ago

    Must be push to open and close?

    Form over function. I’m in the ”function” first camp. Handles are easy to grab, and open the ovens quickly. Who needs to add a mechanism to possibly malfunction?

    The linear handles on my Miele ovens are modern in appearance, and unobtrusive.

  • 2 years ago

    That was the first thing I thought -- how do they open? Whatever the mechanism, it's one more thing to break. Plus if someone else uses it, like a houseguest or something, will they know how to open it? (that is not a stupid question -- I had a guest over once who had never seen a one-handled lever faucet and had to ask me how to turn it on).

  • 2 years ago

    What could possibly go wrong? 🤔🙄

  • 2 years ago

    Appliances that can only be opened by a touchpad seems to be asking for trouble. And that touchpad will go out when your new mother-in-law is coming over for dinner for the first time.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Somehow I can imagine this failing with cooked food inside it on Friday evening and having no one to service it until the following week.

    We had an ordinary DW (the house came with scratch and dent, I think) stop working with dirty dishes inside, and to add insult to injury the mechanical latch stuck shut. The contractor pulled the outer door off before the latch gave. I think he pried it open with a crowbar to get the dishes out. It was on it's last legs so we should have seen it all coming, I guess.

  • 2 years ago

    More electronics to get fried by oven heat.

  • 2 years ago

    Our Sharp MW drawer has no handle. You press the open/close button on the tilting keypad. Some models had handles, but that only seemed to confuse/encourage some users to pull/push when they shouldn't and eventually mess up the auto open/close mechanism., which is probably why all the new ones don't have any handles. Works fine for a MW where you can stop the food from cooking by pressing "stop" and you don't really need to open the door.

    Not sure I would want an oven without a handle when you might need to take something out of the oven immediately.

    I also had a Miele DW with "knock to open" which we never used as we put a pull on the panel door. Didn't get that function when we ordered the new DW for the new house.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I'm getting the handleless 7000 series Artline Miele Steam and speed ovens, dishwasher which operates by two rapid knocks on the door.... and 7000 series induction cooktop (if it ever gets released). The ovens pop open at the end of the cook cycle to rapidly cool down the food to prevent over cooking. I don't have them yet but I love the looks. Going for the handleless Thermador fridge that opens with a push and will close itself if left ajar. I'd go for SubZero again but they are just not keeping up with styling their interiors.

    BTW, the appliances can be easily opened during a power failure.

  • 2 years ago

    I have the kind of finger tips that are difficult to print…very dry skin, etc. While it might help if I decide to take up a life of crime, it is horrible when I am asked to use touch pads of any kind. Including for recognition on my phone, ipad, etc. I struggle with the touch controls on my w/d. I can’t even begin to imagine the problems I would have with appliances that have touch screen only and where heat is involved. No. Please, no.

  • 2 years ago

    There are two kinds of touch technologies common on appliances AFAIK. One is membrane touch on which the panel flexes very slightly to engage contact points on the surface panel and another panel behind it, through an insulating layer with openings for the contact points.

    The other is capactive touch which doesn't flex. Electronics monitor changes induced by the finger (skin) in an electrostatic field across the surface at grid-points which correlate to the labeled functions.

  • 2 years ago

    I'm a proud Luddite, so my preference is always no electronics. Let's say you're baking with that oven and you have to check every couple minutes to see if it's done.


    So you press a button, wait for it to open, press another button, wait for it to close. Do that several times, each time letting heat escape. No thanks.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    One of our luxury hotels has a lovely bar with an upscale ladies room.

    The toilets are....... a wave of your hand flush operation, Not to be confused with you walk away and there it goes. .

    Do NOT ASK ME beyond that statement : (

    I am the "fixer" for the WTH!!! ???? group , clearly both mystified and simultaneously embarrassed.

  • 2 years ago

    @latifolia The oven has a camera AND a wireless thermometer that would alert you via your phone when your food is done. There is no reason to open your oven several times like the old days especially with a steam oven.

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Some of us are peekers. A ridiculous add on, unless you never bake, and you barely cook.

    Much tech is invaluable. ...maybe not necessary for everyone. My own auto annoys the #$%^& out of me. I can DRIVE thank you!! Stop with the beeping because its a damn car going by in the road and no I am not just going to back out with no look. Three times: )

  • 2 years ago

    It is a no for me. I watched the video of the Miele one. It uses a touch pad type button and then there is a pause and then it opens. It would drive me nuts. I did see that it does have some sort of finger pull if you do not want to do it by way of touch pad. I think there are some which are push to open.


    It does have cameras to see the food but you have to wonder how long before the camera lens gets all cruded up and then you can not see the food well. Also I wonder how clear the actual picture is. I know looking through the window on my oven it still is not a good enough view to keep me from opening the oven to have a peek.


    I wonder if the door can be partially open or is it just opened all the way and closed all the way? I know there have been times where I have had my oven door open partially as I watch something under the broiler. Also when just taking a peek I do not need the door all the way open.


    I prefer less electronics.


  • 2 years ago

    Where do you hang the towels?

  • 2 years ago

    The CR top-rated Cafe CTS70DM2NS5 wall oven has a minimalist handle.

  • 2 years ago

    @Paul F

    I'm guessing you don't bake much! A camera and thermometer wouldn't help. You gently shake a cheesecake to see if the middle jiggles, and one test for a cake is to press the top and see if it springs back. Nor would those help if one is baking lasagna with tin foil over it.

  • 2 years ago

    I would check the vendor installation instructions but the flush inset oven style is a potential fire hazard

    https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/flush-mounted-ovens-the-new-danger-appliance-makers-and-dealers-overlook/

  • 2 years ago

    That means like 99% of kitchens here in Germany are about to burst into flames, since flush inset ovens are the norm.

  • 2 years ago

    No handles. One less thing in your way or something to get hooked on. Looks nicer. Eliminates nosy relatives thinking they need to check on your cooking (probably don't know how to operate handle less oven).

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    “No handles. One less thing in your way or something to get hooked on”

    I have never, in my entire life, gotten anything hooked on a wall oven handle. Nor thought a wall oven handle was in my way, ever. Since I am not that young, we are talking about several decades. Including with the old-style wall ovens with the big ol’ clunky handles. You know what I mean…from when people didn’t have anxiety about getting hooked on a wall oven handle.

    ”Eliminates nosy relatives thinking they need to check on your cooking”

    There could be no further thing on my mind when relatives visit than a concern whether they want to check on my cooking. Check away. Why would I care? But actually, this never happens.

  • 2 years ago

    This reminds me why I love my circa 1978 appliances. Handles! Knobs! Turn indicators! Replaceable parts! And absolutely no electronics.

  • 2 years ago

    When the meringue on my Baked Alaska is browned perfectly, it needs to be taken out of the oven PDQ. I wouldn’t want to wait for some keypad to relay signals to the door.