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last year
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So up on my third floor I am going to need a couple lamps. I have plenty of lamps but I am not quite sure the right lamps.

That floor has a complicated exposed sheathing and rafter ceiling that is very dark, almost Jacobean stain, and the furniture is mostly 1950s to 1970s kelly green (this is the rooms that I was looking at the tartan carpet for, out of budget). It's going to be a very loose furniture arrangement because it's almost like an attic. I have some white tulip tables, very portable. So I was thinking floor lamps rather than table lamps. I am weird about lamps. I have found a number of white floor lamps but usually at some ridiculous price.

So I found these Herman Miller Ode lamps. They aren't cheap, about $700 (but one of the out-of-budget ones for me was $3500, Out of budget was much lower than $3500, but my point is, this is the sort of plain looking thing that I am attracted to and then it turns out to be so expensive). So it's relative. If I could find a pair of something I liked for $7 or 70 I would do it. Sometimes I can't, it's just the way I roll.

Here are the complicated bits:

They don't have an LED bulb, they have an LED light module. (Will you be able to get replacement modules?)

They don't have an on/off switch. You touch them to turn them on and off.

But if you move it, it is deprogrammed. You have to unplug it, wait at least ten seconds, plug it back in, and then wait again before touching it. If you don't do it right, it may rebel somehow.

It turns off automatically after two hours. Then if you immediately turn it back on, it will stay on for nine hours unless you turn it off.

It is 2700K at least, not something obnoxiously blue-white.

But doesn't this all seem a little too complicated for a lamp? Why not an on off switch?

Does it really have to be this complicated? And you have to assemble it.

I made the picture black and white. The paint and upholstery is peachy pink and I did not want to distract people.



Comments (16)

  • last year
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    Pal, from what I understand based on lights DD and DSIL have bought, once the module goes out, you trash the lamp (or in their case, the ceiling fixture).


    btw, I like that lamp a lot, but it would drive me nuts with all of its ”features.”


    I thought I understood the Kelvin scale for LED lights. I had a handyman in a couple of weeks ago and one of his tasks was to replace all the light bulbs in the garage. They were 4’ flourescent lights, but I know you can get LED bulbs for those fixtures. I came home to lights that were that weird orangey color like the old sodium street lights. I found the wrappings in the trash. They are 3000K bulbs, just like I asked for. Instead of the blue-white I was worried about, I have ORANGE. I hate it, but I’m just going to live with it until I can’t stand it anymore.

  • last year

    The tubes you got may have a very poor CRI, color rendering index.


    I know my niece was able to get a new module for a RH lamp, but it was a new lamp. I am talking about down the line at some point. 700 is a lot for a disposable lamp. I know some fixtures use LED tape and you can replace the tape if necessary.


  • last year

    Yes, it seems way too complicated for a floor lamp. What do they expect people to do when cleaning for example, and you need to move the lamp? And for it to stay on for 9 hours after ’reprogramming’ or just turning back on seems to be a safety hazard. What is the warranty for this oddity?

  • last year

    Now that we've seen it undistracted, I would love to see it in color!

  • last year

    Those are bizarre and annoying ”features.”

  • last year

    In a guest room, I'd say no. But I think you and your partner could handle it and probably would not mind a little sacrifice for aesthetics. In that case, my biggest concern would be being able to replace modules.

  • last year

    And here I've been experimenting with smart lights so I don't have to even go near the lamp to turn it on or off. It sounds like a diva to me.

  • last year

    The timed on method reminds me a little of my battery led candles. It may great if you want something to turn on just for ambiance and decor, but the timers sound like they are intended more for a business. I prefer my smart bulbs in regular lamps

  • last year

    Those "features" sound like a nightmare.

  • last year

    I turned down an LED floor lamp because the LED module could not be replaced. The sales associate assured me the LED would last my lifetime, but the wastefulness put me off. I like the shape and scale of the lamp you chose.

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    Actually I think the design was developed for commercial spaces, because it comes as "mountable" fixture as well, one that has no base, and can be fixed on a countertop. So I think it was designed with the contract/commercial design market in mind, which has a short life-cycle, usually under ten years.

    But still the whole idea of an entire fixture being "broken" for lack of a replaceable light source just seems stupid and wasteful. The light source may be more efficient than an incandescent bulb but what about the rest of the 4 or 5 foot tall object going to a landfill.

    This is like the refrigerator lie. That 50 year old fridge your parents had in their basement always did and still does use less energy than a modern "Energy Star" fridge.

  • last year

    Wasteful, indeed. Feels like a set-up, doesn't it? I am dealing with the same waste issue on my DR chandy and 3 or 4 appliances right now. Please tell me how taking an entire fridge, a/c unit or DW to the landfill vs. putting in some freon or a small pump saves anything. How those lightbulbs, which do NOT last 13 years, are HORRIBLE light, and are very difficult to duplicate (right now, I have 3 different color bulbs in one chandy because I cannot get an exact match on the one I LIKED).


    And they wonder why we have conspiracy theories, LOL.


    Good luck with the lamp. I like the shape, but you might need a tag of instructions attached, for guests.

  • last year

    I think Europe has some laws about forced obsolescence; we should too!

  • last year

    Actually I think these are out of consideration because my lamps are all switched from near the door. I prefer that to having to reach over things to turn them off and on, and I prefer to touch stuff like this as little as possible. Even my bedside lamps are switched by the door and then have a wall switch easily reached from the bed.

  • last year

    I love gadgets, it's the replacement price that yanks my chain. If it were a $50 lamp...yeah...go get another one in 3 years. I sprang for an 80" LED hanging bar light in our wood shop. When the bulb wears out...you replace the whole thang. It was the display model, I offered them $10. DONE!

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  • last year

    I actually really don't like gadgets. The most high tech thing I have is dimmers, and I prefer the manual dimmers vs. electronic. My cooktop can be adjusted with a screwdriver, and taken apart and put back together by hand. I want things as simple as possible with as few parts as possible.

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