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This Louise Clements is still in dormancy

Hello all,

I have this own-root Louise Clements planted last fall and it seems it is still in dormancy. It has no leaves but canes are still green.

Is this normal for Louise Clements? Is it sick or dying?




Comments (12)

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Omar,

    Good to hear from you, being reminded of your Rose Rosette Disease horrors of last year, and what you had to endure...yet you are still in roses speaks well of your sticktoitiveness.

    I do not think your Louise Clements is alive at all. By now it should have at least pushed up some basal growth. I would very carefully, by hand, pull back the mulch and soil around the bush's crown and look for signs of growth, then report back here with photos of what you discovered. Again, good to hear from you.

    Moses

  • 2 years ago

    I agree with Moses. Diane

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    @Moses, Pittsburgh, W. PA., zone 5/6, USA @Diane Brakefield

    Glad to be back. I still many roses in my garden. As of now, there is more infected roses with RRD, but it is still too early.

    It is strange that this rose has died. We didn't have a harsh winter last season and all own-root roses started to have grow leaves.

    It is still under warranty through Heirloom. I will submit a claim in this case.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Louise Clements is out of stock at Heirloom right now, Omar. I do not know what next steps you will take, but whatever you do as far as a replacement rose goes, please make sure it is black spot resistant/proof. That will make life much easier for you.

    The German rose breeder Kordes sells an excellent line of very hardy healthy roses. They are designated so by the ADR abbreviation which they receive if they pass rigorous trials in many test gardens throughout Germany. Not all Kordes roses pass the test, so they cannot be awarded the ADR recognition. Just a select number of Kordes roses pass the ADR trials. Other rose breeders enter their roses in the ADR trial, big rose breeders like Meilland, Noak, Tantau.....are also awarded ADR on their roses that successfully pass the trials.

    Look for the ADR award printed somewhere on the tag of a rose for sale at a nursery. Ask if the rose has been awarded this high standard before you buy it.

    Moses

  • 2 years ago

    I noticed it is out of stock but they will probably give me a store credit or refund.

    Any suggestions for shrub rose that is very fragrant and black spot resistant?

  • 2 years ago

    I being a hopeful sort would plant it in a pot and see what happens. Is it own root !

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I recommend Earth Angel as a replacement from Heirloom, if that's what you want instead of a refund. It's listed as in stock. Very fragrant, ADR winner, spotless foliage, however the blooms can get stuck opening up in wet weather...still a great rose. I've had mine about 7 years...it was slow establishing, but very worthwhile.

    Another recommendation is Bliss Parfuma, ADR winner, moderate fragrance, foliage is black spot free, and also in stock at Heirloom now. These roses, although not ADR winners, should be, they are: Quietness, Pinkerbelle, and South Africa.

    Moses

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    My roses here 5-6 hours away from you broke dormancy early to mid March...hummmm...Best of luck Omar.... I like to plant Heirloom roses in May instead of the fall...

  • 2 years ago

    @Moses, Pittsburgh, W. PA., zone 5/6, USA Heirloom approved a store credit. I will look at Earth Angel but I don't want something that takes years to bloom. Many of their roses are currently out of stocks.


    @jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6 Heirloom had a discount last August, so I bought 6 roses. They all broke dormancy except Louise Clements but I agree with Moses. I think it is dead already. I am looking for a new replacement.

  • 2 years ago

    Great to hear your other roses broke dormancy ... :-) Good luck with whatever you decide to replace L.C. with...Hope it grows well for you Omar (Z6, Northwest Ohio) .




  • 2 years ago

    Jim, you always have a good "point" in your comments. 😁

    Moses

  • 2 years ago

    Only one rose I would like to buy from Heirloom is Impressionist. May be some day, not this season.

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