My builder uses Houzz Pro to plan the timeline and give detailed estimates and daily updates with photos of progress, and provide invoices at pre-agreed key points in the build. This made the whole experience much more efficient and stress-free.
Does anyone have opinions on Quicksilver? And would you dare plant her in partial shade?? 😬 Apologies if either of these questions have been answered—I’m having trouble with my internet filter and I can’t search older threads!
I have two three year old Quicksilvers, on either side of an arbor. The one on the shadier side is definitely slower growing, but it is growing. The shady side is maybe four hours full sun, three hours dappled sun this time of year.
For me they get some blackspot - mostly of the defoliate and keep going variety (I dont spray). I don’t do anything special for winter protection and the canes came through fine (I’m zone 6, mid ohio).
Not much I can tell you since I don’t have many other climbers to compare to, but I hope that helps.
To get prior Quicksilver discussions: go to www.gardenweb.com. The resultant search box yields results from gardenweb, rather than all of houzz. For “quicksilver”, most of the results are for the rose quicksilver. Bad houzz removed the ability to search just within the rose forum some time ago.
I do not know where you live (it will affect the answer). Unless you are in California or somewhere like that I would not plant a Kordes in anything less than 6 hours of sun. They do great here in the south but want the sun to bloom.
Erika, thank you! That is really helpful!! I am supposedly zone 6 as well (northern Indiana), recently upgraded from zone 5, so we probably have similar growing conditions. Mine might get a little more sun but I’m not sure—I’ll have to pay attention to see just exactly when the sun hits that spot!
Rifis, that’s good to know! I was just going to do a Google search on Quicksilver with the Houzz included but couldn’t get it done so your method worked! 😁
Dianela7analabama, sorry, I always forget to put down what zone and area I’m in! That’s good to know about Kordes roses. Again, I’ll have to pay attention to just when the sun hits that spot!
You can edit your name and add your zone to it. There are some roses that do better in the shade So I might consider those for your arbor if you are low on all day sun.
I haven’t been able to figure out how to edit my name! I’d be open to suggestions if anyone has any! It looks like it gets full sun somewhere between 2:30 and 3:00 at least this time of year. It needs to be a short climber I would say. No more than 8ft. At least if it winters over well! 😁 I will be training it along a lattice up against a fence. Again, I’m in zone 6a, northern Indiana. I picture something with at least a little bit of color because I’m going to plant one on either side (several feet apart, obviously!) of a Claire Austin and I was also picturing growing some short clematis in with them. The lattice is black if that makes any difference to your vision! 😄
Hhm...Ariel (love the name!) my own experience with Quicksilver is too brief still for me to speak with anything like authority, and yet, here goes. I'm in Tuscany, garden has south-west exposure, so, uber hot and full sun is way too much for anything here during the summer (apart from cactus, maybe, lol?). In spite of this-or because of it- I'm getting ideas about shade tolerance among roses. I have a feeling that Quicksilver does need a sunnier spot than other roses might.
It's just an "idea"; I bought 2 grafted Quicksilvers from Barni the year before last, planted them in pots (because, at the time, I thought it would give them an advantage once out in the garden. I was wrong-really wrong.)The following autumn (correct time for planting in my climate) I put both out-one on a hilly spot , full sun,high up, so not great moisture retention or soil. The other went in a shady spot-but with the option for a plant to grow into the light-and better soil and moisture. The one in the poor,dry, sunny spot is still there,growing-not lavishly, but growing. The one in the shady spot practically died off completely; what was left I potted up and it did come back but I think now that the new shoot it has may well be rootstock.
Now, it could be that the spot #2 is just too shady and sort of "dank" for roses, or there could be another issue, but my gut feeling is that this is one that does need sun ,even in my climate. Here I think all roses appreciate some shade, but your climate is very different; even for you they may like a bit of shade at the hottest time of day. But I think Quicksilver is one of those that does require a bit more sun.
BTW, I got 2 new Quicksilvers from Barni last fall, planted them out, bare-root, being careful that they have sun. They are doing splendidly!
I don't know if Peter Beales rose nursery is still active-I hope so. I have found it helpful to go to their site to see which roses they recommend for shade. What works in shade in "grey-green" England ought to work here in shade in Italy, for sure! I don't trust David Austin the way I would Peter Beales-no way.
Vaporvac, sorry, I didn’t word that correctly! The sun hits that area somewhere between those times and stays there the rest of the day!
Thanks for sharing your experience with Quicksilver! Yes, it seems like it must like the sun if it can’t handle the shade in your area. I’m sure our climates are vastly different! 😁 Thanks for the tip about Peter Beales, too. I’ll see what I can find! 😊
Another helpful site is Lens Roses on-line catalogue. It's in Dutch, French or English. The part where they mention placing (i.e., shade-tolerant or not) and spacing is mostly in Dutch, I believe, but it's easy to get the hang of it. That is,"Standplaats" is clearly placing, since it's followed by"sun or part-shade". I send a link to the page on "Bouquet Parfait"https://lens-roses.com/en_US/shop/bouquet-parfait-r-13580?order=lr_product_type_sequence+asc%2Cvirtual_stock_for_website+desc to show what I mean.
Erika
rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
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