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TL;DR: What dinnerware brands do you recommend that look nice enough for more formal dinners but are sturdy enough for everyday use?


Longer version: I registered for a set of Lenox Federal Platinum dinnerware from macy's for our wedding. I intended to use it for everyday dishes as it's dishwasher safe, and I didn't want to have two sets. I thought it was a perfect solution.

Fast forward 5ish years of daily use and it looks like crap. The platinum rings basically have rubbed off in places. So much for being dishwasher safe. Not only that, the company has completely ignored my emails for warranty. I'm just to upset by this trash, especially given the cost (3 piece set was about $100, and I have 12 place settings plus a set of soup bowls).

I have a few plates and bowls from Mikasa that seem sturdy (with the bonus of being microwave safe as well) and I was thinking of going with that, but wanted to see if anyone here had a recommendation.

TIA!

My horrible dishes (all of them look like this):




Comments (29)

  • last year

    I have a set of Lenox Eternal that is over 30 years old and still looks brand new. But I only take it out for holidays. it goes in the dishwasher once, at most twice, a year. It was never meant for daily use.

  • last year

    I am very pleased with Amazon Essentials china. It looks good and is sturdy for everyday use.

  • PRO
    last year

    Go to a place like Crate and Barrel or Williams Sonoma and speak with the staff and ask them for recommendations on what they have carried for decades and has the fewest issues. I'm sure they are a wealth of information.


  • last year

    I hope that Lenox will follow up with you regarding your china. My parents had the Lenox Wedding Wreath pattern with gold and it did not fade in 60plus years of holiday use. My pattern is a simple gold band from 35 years ago - also no fading. But, I have Lenox crystal with gold banding and one glass has lost much of it's gold. I think it is a manufacturing flaw, but I don't think these dishes are truly meant for everyday use. I remember receiving some cautions about lemon dish soap or acidic foods.


    I think there are lots of ways you can go with everyday dishes ...

    I am thrifty and just purchased this Mikasa set from Costco for daily use. My local store had 8 place settings for $45! They are china and much lighter that my prior stoneware dishes, which makes emptying the dishwasher much easier. Also, they are microwave safe.




  • last year

    I’m surprised anything with a silver or gold edge detail would be advertised as dishwasher safe. I have Lennox Holiday pattern with gold edge and it has never gone in the dishwasher, always hand wash (and plates are so easy to wash….)-looks like new. I have daily dishes of various types that do goin the dishwasher. Incidentally, an earlier dishwasher managed to etch our very sturdy basic restaurant type of daily glassware. Our second dishwasher has not done that. Perhaps the problem is your dishwasher or dishwasher soap….

  • last year

    I agree with Beverly regarding Wms. Sonoma and C&B. I don’t think you can go wrong with plain white dishes. They can be played up or down and food looks great on white.

  • last year

    Yes I choose this pattern because I felt it would be simple enough with a bit of bling. I'm definitely thinking white for the next set. Sad I'll be throwing $1200 dish set in the trash. If it should only be used once or twice a year they should state that.

    I have a pretty standard new KitchenAid dishwasher and use Cascade pods from Sam's club. I don't want to baby anything so I guess my mistake for thinking I could have nice things (and a bit of product misrepresentation on their part). Lesson learned I guess. I have zero desire to have multiple sets of dishes. Just tried to kill two birds with one stone.

    If Costco still has that I'll see if I can get someone with a membership to pick them up for me. They look like what I need.

  • last year

    Five years? That's disappointing.


    Yes, I love to set a pretty table and have multiple sets of dishes. Recommendations:


    I registered for Pfaltzgraff stoneware when I was married 34 years ago, and it doesn't look new but is in good shape. I did order replacement bowls, and I can tell which are the new ones -- they're thinner.


    My wedding fine china has had moderate use -- it's Noritake -- and is still perfect, though I hand wash it.


    I have my grandmother's wedding fine china, and it's also had moderate use -- it's Harmony House -- and is still perfect. I also hand wash it.


    I have a set of FiestaWare dishes in a smaller size. They're not all that old, and we enjoy them. They're not supposed to be breakable, but my 2-year old grandson found a way.


    My mother is still using the Johnson Brothers China that we ate off of when I was a child.

  • last year

    I really like Denby

  • last year

    I have always understood that dinnerware with gold, silver, or platinum trim are not meant to go in the dishwasher on a regular basis. It is extremely unfortunate that you were misled.

  • last year

    C'est la vie

  • last year
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    Can recommend Mikasa quality- have used Mikasa ”Antique White” as my everyday dinnerware for many years and is definitely dishwasher and microwave safe.

    Although I have Lenox ”Holiday” and ”Castle Garden” and do put them in the dishwasher, they are not used on an everyday basis. They were both advertised as dishwasher safe despite gold outer banding. I tested one small plate everyday in the dishwasher for three months before I committed to doing an entire load.


    Both sets are 47 years old (wedding gifts) and have seen a lot of entertaining. Older might have had better quality metallic banding- mine don’t have any wear. Used the ”Castle Garden” at least once a week for 20+ years.

  • last year

    This is an image of Lenox Cretan dinnerware, the same gold trimmed bone china set I inherited from my mother. She used to say, “of course the china is dishwasher safe. The gold trim isn’t.” 😂

    Your dinnerware doesn’t look great, but if you keep popping it in the dishwasher (or hasten the process of metal removal with muriatic acid or HCL, or just rub it off with silver polish), you will have beautiful, un-ornamented white porcelain. Why replace that with white stoneware, when what you have is nicer, more durable, and you already own it? Just Google ”how to remove metal trim from china.” It’ll work or it won’t, and you are no worse off for trying. I’d start with silver polish.

    Good luck!

  • PRO
    last year

    If you want one set to do anything, for any holiday, or any event? Keep it white, plan and very simple. The table cloth, napkins and all other are the "story"


    You buy so you have 18 or 24, keep six for constant daily use and reserve. Is there a better way? Probably not. Excellent reviews above and oven safe.

    https://www.wayfair.com/kitchen-tabletop/pdp/birch-lane-laperle-everyday-classic-rim-16-piece-dinnerware-set-with-cereal-bowls-assorted-fvj10196.html

  • last year

    It really is a dream of every young bride to have gorgeous plates to serve thanks giving or Christmas dinners ..nobody thinks at that stage if it’s dishwasher safe ……….so, we all have them ….and frankly , I enjoy looking at them in the closet …but actually using them ….hahaha , I just can’t ….the thought of breaking one of them ….so much for heirlooms ! Just pass them on to your family and let them worry about it , I use every day pretty dishes and refrain from using anything expensive and difficult to clean without a butler or trained maids . I even painted my silver plates with high gloss bold colors so that I don’t have to polish them anymore ….

  • last year

    I have always (50+ years) had white dishes, except for one time - I gave those away! I have many dinner parties and I dress up the table with placemats, napkins, interesting salad plates, etc. I use fine crystal when it’s formal; otherwise casual stemware. I have a beautiful set of very high quality stainless flatware that looks perfect for either formal or casual. My current dishes are from Sur La Table because they have the variety of pieces I like, it’s open stock so I can replace things that get broken (grandchildren and tile floors).

  • last year

    I highly recommend going to a restaurant supply place. many sell to the public. they supply china to fine dining establishments and we bought all our dishes from them 10%+ years ago. no silver markings, no breakage and they stack very neatly in cabinets. we can get 20 dinner plates in one stack in the cabinet.



  • last year

    Years ago.. I picked out every day dishes with a fruit pattern that was lovely. At the time it seemed beautiful but no one ever suggested that if I serve lobster or ragu that the pattern would look so ugly.


    Noritake Epoch Wholesome Super durable, Never chipped but probably had lead in the material




    In our home we have Mikasa everyday dishes. I like Mikasa because if they discontinued the pattern they look nice mixed with any of the other white dishes. We currently have Del Ray because this pattern has been around for a long time. It goes great with Lucern, Sloan, Cheers, Trellis, Swirl, ... I love Italian Countryside but be warned this is not white. It is a creamy white. My dishes are a super bright white. You can serve lobster, ragu, black beans or red cabbage.. all colors go with white. And no more lead!!!






    We have crate and barrel in our summer home used by vacationing friends and family. NO issues nothing broken, nothing chipped. Aspen Rimmed dinner plate. My only concern with CB is that they may change and discontinue the pattern. My son uses this place the most and I can assure you nothing is ever hand washed. A durable product, I highly recommend.



  • PRO
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    I lkke a nice simple white bone china Mikasa makes some very nice pieces . I ahve had Rhubarb bone china for 20+ plus years and never damaged a piece and it is our go to for everyday and for most dinner parties . Dressed up with different table settings and decor always looks awesome . I aslo have aset of Wedgewood in apttern called anemone it is old but has great colors for mixing other pieces with it .

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    Can you use the Mikasa for everyday use and look for a set you really like for entertaining (if you can accommodate storage). Don’t spend a ton.

    If you just want one set, stoneware is durable and modern. I’d suggest buying extra set(s) in case of breakage and to accommodate larger numbers.



    https://www.potterybarn.com/products/2092333/?catalogId=84&cm_ven=organicsocial&cm_cat=pinterest&cm_pla=organic&epik=dj0yJnU9LWFwYnUyV2VUcFJJaUNKOXlSaVFzTHVCbkFXT2RxOE4mcD0wJm49aTBpa2VtM1NFUEdlcTF3T2lzdWJ0QSZ0PUFBQUFBR1o2M2g0

  • last year
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    Thanks all, I really appreciate all of your suggestions! I might try to remove the silver from my dishes - although inspecting one of the spots where the silver is gone, it looks like you can still see where it was, like there's a small indent that happened during manufacturing, so I'm not sure that will work. I'm definitely NOT getting anything else from Lenox (so so surprised at their unresponsiveness - I really expected more from that company). I definitely don't need multiple sets of dishes - when we entertain it's rarely formal - everyone we know has school-age kids so the get togethers tend to be burgers & brats. Holidays tend to be more people than the dishes I own anyway so I usually buy the fancy plastic plates which, ironically, look exactly like my Lenox dishes BUT BETTER.

    Anyway, I think from all of your responses, Mikasa might be the best option - affordable, DW safe, MW safe, and white. I would consider WS & C&B but, honestly, after this failed foray into expensive dinnerware I'm a little hesitant to spend a bunch of money. I'm typically a bit of a penny pincher (being poor in college & grad school was tough to shake off) so the Lenox was a huge splurge. Lots of other (better) places to spend that kind of money :)

  • PRO
    last year

    Keep your Lenox china for holday and dinner party use. I have the basic white Crate & Barrel dish sets and they've held up beautifully for eight years. I also have a set of their stoneware pasta bowls.





  • last year

    Fiesta dinnerware is very durable, classic and many wonderful colors to mix/match as well as white

  • last year

    I've had Williams Sonoma "Everyday Dinnerware" for about 20 years and it's in great shape with daily use. Sadly it has been discontinued but I think their "Pantry Dinnerware" is the next iteration. It's nice but plain white. Not sure if that's what you had in mind. I even picked up some of the Pantry coffee mugs (because they are cute and a better size than what I had) and I really like them. It's a thicker set of dinnerware, so I'm not certain if they are delicate enough for what you had in mind for entertaining.





    I also have a few Crate & Barrel pieces (big salad bowls and flat plates) from the Aspen and Verge collections. I've only had those a few years but have been very happy with them as well.


    I agree that going into Williams Sonoma and Crate & Barrel and asking the staff for recommendations on dinnerware that has not had issues would be a great idea.

  • last year

    I’m another C & B Aspen fan for my everyday and holiday entertaining. I like the coupe style for a modern look. Lots of serving pieces available as well. It is a very bright white and has been around for some time.

    We have a rooftop outdoor deck with an indoor den and small kitchen on that floor as well. I use Corelle Winter Frost White up there where we host large gatherings. It’s lightweight and stacks efficiently for storage. It’s been around forever so replacement pieces are easy to find. It’s just a little nicer than disposable paper plates and is great for BBQ’s and very casual events.

  • last year

    I have Crate and Barrel Aspen, which has been great. They changed factories a few years ago and the new pieces are a bit heavier, but they are still "dressy" enough to make a holiday table, or even mix in with the wedding china. Great range of items, from soup plates and coffee cups for a formal table, to large cereal bowls and oversize mugs for the casual breakfast.


    Mikasa is great for getting a little more style for just a little more money. My favorite plain white pieces are Apilco and Pillivuyt, but that's outside my budget.

  • last year

    Please do not trash your dishes if you decide to get new ones. Give them to Goodwill or another charity resale store so a young person/couple can furnish their new home with lovely dishes. They will be loved.

  • last year

    I did not mean "trash" literally.

  • last year

    Here is a picture of Amazon Basics white dinnerware. It comes in a service for 4.

    Very sturdy. Nice white and good in dishwasher.

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