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Victorian Kitchen Reno: Island, backsplash, lighting advice needed

2 years ago

We're almost done with the partial renovation (kitchen, laundry room, mudroom, porch) of our 1880's Queen Anne. We demolished the existing kitchen and built from scratch to match the vintage of the house. We had the existing cabinetry modified and restored and added more - the original cabinetmaker from the 1980's is still in town. We are in the home stretch now and we are faced with some decisions for which I'd love to get input.


Here are photos giving a 360 view of the entire kitchen, though without the island (43" x 75") in the middle of it. The photos walk you into the kitchen from the breakfast nook and then around the perimeter of the kitchen. Blue tape on the floor indicates where the island will be.












#1. The island is being built out of cherry, but I am considering either staining it black or painting it black. The top will be butcher block (43" x 75" with a 16" overhang that will accommodate 3 stools). Would you keep the island finish the natural cherry or go with a black island? All of the existing cabinetry is cherry, the counters are Cambria Blackpool Matte. The photo below inspired this line of thought. NB: The photo below is not my kitchen.


Here's a photo of the island in process. The gap on the right is for a microwave drawer. There will be a tall drawer in the middle, but the front hasn't been built yet. The wood is gorgeous, but I am wondering if it will be too much cherry in the room. I also wonder if painting this gorgeous wood means I am out of my mind. Thoughts?



#2. I was all set for a quartz backsplash with a carrara marble look until I began reading about how heat discolors quartz. I'd like to avoid grout so I am considering Dekton (Marina-SilverKoast), which comes in a variety of thicknesses. My cabinetmaker suggests going with a 3-4" backsplash of the Cambria Blackpool Matte with the rest of the space (up to the bottom of the upper cabinets) either painted cream like the walls or using the Dekton. What do you think? Do you have experience with Dekton? Good or bad?

Thanks for any advice/feedback. btw, there will be task lighting (already purchased and waiting to be installed) above the island but I am wondering about what fixture to use over the sink - I guess that's question #3.


Comments (18)

  • 2 years ago

    WOW WOW WOW..

    Gorgeous I need to process and get back to you with ideas and opinions but could not stop myself from saying wow.


    bookladyltb thanked Boxerpal
  • 2 years ago

    Your cabinets and counters are beautiful! Generally I'd say not to paint cherry cabinets at all, and also to keep island cabinets the same as perimeter if the counters will be different. However, I'm not sure how butcher block would look with cherry so I'm more people will chime in. Everything you've done so far looks wonderful!

    bookladyltb thanked chicagoans
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Are you married to the butcher block? I agree with chicagoans, I’m not sure if I would pair butcher block with cherry cabinets, but I actually really like the look of the darker stained/painted island. It adds some contrast and breaks up the wood, at least in my opinion. Very beautiful kitchen, wish you all the best!

    bookladyltb thanked Sophia Van Zyl
  • 2 years ago

    Thanks, everyone. Much of the cabinetry is now 35 years old and still gorgeous - a testament to the quality of the workmanship. I can't take any credit for the design, we were lucky to inherit them.


    The reason we went with butcher block is that the Cambria stone (Blackpool Matte), which supposedly is like "a starless sky" has enough sparkles in it that it looks like there is white paint overspray on the counter in places. I'm not a fan of sparkles - I just wanted a plain black counter. Under-cabinet lighting only makes the sparkles more pronounced, so we feel that any task lighting would highlight what we consider a negative even more. (I even visited the Cambria showroom in Chicago and saw a slab - but it was displayed vertically, not horizontally, and didn't appear to have any sparkles - lesson learned.)


    I used the photos below to get an idea of what cherry would look like paired with butcher block, but the pix don't help with the backsplash color decision, and when I found the photo of the cherry kitchen with the black island, I fell in love with that idea. It seemed like the perfect solution but it really complicated the situation. The cabinetmaker needs a decision wrt how to finish the island. Do you think the cherry works with the bb in these photos?


    At first I thought it made sense to complete the island before moving on to the backsplash, but I worry that I should be taking the backsplash color into consideration wrt what color the island should be - and vice versa - so I'm stuck. Thanks for your help.






  • 2 years ago

    Natural cherry finish for the island. It's beautiful cabinet work.

    bookladyltb thanked apple_pie_order
  • 2 years ago

    Very pretty! I have a matching four inch backsplash with painted walls. Never gives me trouble. We did put a piece of stainless steel behind the cooktop.

    bookladyltb thanked auntthelma
  • 2 years ago

    1. “Would you keep the island finish the natural cherry or go with a black island?” It’s too pretty to paint, but what if you stain it a dark walnut? I found the stain below on an Amish woodworking site. They call it Smoke. What species of wood are you using for the butcher block?


    2. “My cabinetmaker suggests going with a 3-4" backsplash of the Cambria Blackpool Matte with the rest of the space (up to the bottom of the upper cabinets) either painted cream like the walls or using the Dekton. What do you think?‘ No. You have so many other options, and you don’t exactly love the Cambria. Don’t get more of it. Dekton is pretty rigid, it chips and cracks. I wouldn’t place it where pans might run into it.

    3. “I am wondering about what fixture to use over the sink” You could use something reminiscent of what your house might have had for kitchen lighting.

    One detail that caught my eye was the ruffled glass in that image. I know you like to keep things simple, but a little adornment can add so much warmth to a space.





    bookladyltb thanked eam44
  • 2 years ago

    Ceramic tile is a great backsplash option. I thought the ruffle in the lighting was so pretty, I wondered if there were a tile that might give a similar feeling - while keeping things fairly simple (no frou-frou). What I found was this Kanbina Blanco wall mosaic at Tile Bar (click here). The effect is both restrained (it is just white tile) and glorious because of how is reflects light and shadow. It uses multiple tones of white, and when the light hits it it looks really special.


    There are many, many other options. Check out this beautiful Victorian kitchen renovation by Fireclay Tile that uses hand painted tile with elongated subway tiles. I like the lighting fixtures they chose as well.


    bookladyltb thanked eam44
  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I think the black island or the natural cherry will both look great.


    DO NOT do a strip of counter material and then the balance of the wall something else. Just don't. It will always look like a mistake. Frankly just put in a gorgeous simple tile- a cream 'subway' with a crackle glaze would be great. Modern grout is not scary- promise. It cleans right off.

    bookladyltb thanked HALLETT & Co.
  • 2 years ago

    Agree with Hallett, a simple tile backsplash would look beautiful and period appropriate. BTW, here goes (gulp): I have had Cambria quartz backsplashes behind three ranges and have never had any problem with heat exposure. I.know there’s an army of never-quartzers out there, but this is from my twenty plus years of experience. Phew.

    bookladyltb thanked flopsycat1
  • 2 years ago

    Your kitchen brought to mind the kitchen @salex posted a few years back, and I finally found the thread. There may be info you find useful (click here).


    bookladyltb thanked eam44
  • 2 years ago

    UPDATE: The island is in! First, thanks to the members of the Houzz community that responded to my call for help. Your immediate, thoughtful, candid suggestions helped to transform my thinking around my kitchen conundrum. By the time I finished reading your comments I felt as if I’d been through a session with several skilled therapists or a heart-to-heart with close friends. Probably both.


    @Boxerpal, your comment was first and primed the pump for me. I was excited to see what you would say and realized that I might get feedback quickly, which I did. Reminding me that if we painted or stained the cherry, we couldn’t undo it gave me pause, which I needed. I felt like I was stuck in a vortex of decision making that was spinning me faster and faster, making it hard to land on a choice. Your further comments and many photo examples were incredibly helpful to me. @chicagoans, your simple, straightforward “don’t paint the cherry” advice and insight (“keep island cabinets the same as perimeter if the counters will be different”) provided clarity and a simple rubric. @applepieorder – your two cents added to the “keep it cherry” side of the equation. @eam – all the photos of cherry kitchens you found, including the featured post from several years ago, gave me strong evidence that the island didn’t have to be black. I had fixated on that one photo as the answer to my indecision, but I obviously wasn’t totally sold on it – I just didn’t have a lot of other ideas. The plethora you provided helped to peel me away from that one photo to appreciate and fall in love with the idea of a cherry island.


    I had posed 3 questions, and the backsplash question had engendered a lot if angst for me. I needed someone who could cut through the zillion ideas swirling around in my brain and the Houzz community did not disappoint. I’m talking to you, @eam44 – “you don’t exactly love the Cambria, don’t get more of it.” A true smh moment for me. After reading your comment I was surprised that I had even considered doing that. Thanks for not beating around the bush. And @Hallett & Co – your unequivocal admonishment: “DO NOT do a strip of counter material and then the balance of the wall something else. Just don't. It will always look like a mistake. Frankly just put in a gorgeous simple tile- a cream 'subway' with a crackle glaze would be great. Modern grout is not scary- promise. It cleans right off.” The one idea I brought to this kitchen design from the beginning was that I did not want ANY grout lines, so making the leap to tile is a 180-degree turnabout for me. You helped me make that change. And I do love anything with a crackly glaze so I’m excited to delve into what’s available. @flopsycat – you voted for a simple tile backsplash too, even though your experience with quartz has been positive. Your honest comment also helped me change my mind. @eam44 – the Kanbino Blanco tile from Tile Bar with the link you included caught my eye – I’ve ordered a sample.


    Lastly, I was looking for suggestions wrt a light fixture for over the sink. @eam44, your photo of the Victorian kitchen was inspirational. I loved your suggestions and discovered that one of the fixtures you picked was already on my Pinterest lighting board. I want to get the backsplash installed before I make a move on that fixture, but now that the island is in, I’ve got some headspace to explore the possibilities.


    In closing, an enormous THANKS to all of you that took the time to respond to a total stranger. I, and my husband, were impressed with the details and expertise you offered. And to any Houzz folks that come across this post – this discussion board was invaluable to me. Thanks for making it a part of your site. Below are photos of the island – installed less than a week before a family reunion that we hosted.




  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Well done! Hats off to your cabinet maker. They are a dying breed. That island is gorgeous and jut right for your space.

    I love that you preserved the beauty of your home.

    Enjoy!

  • 2 years ago

    Looks beautiful. Cabinetmaker did an excellent job.

  • 2 years ago

    Beautiful!!!!!! Love your island. As you pick out light fixtures for your gorgeous kitchen…my suggestion is lighting that is NOT enclosed at the bottom. While I like the look of the schoolhouse pendants and others with large glass spheres, all I can think of is CLEANING them when there are bugs or spatters, etc. And having to take off the entire shade to do so…. I love your kitchen!

  • 2 years ago

    I’m really happy for you. The island, and the whole kitchen look so beautiful. Keep us posted on the progress. And thank you for your thanks yous!

  • 2 years ago

    Beautiful!!

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