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Outdoor recess lights dilemma

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Hello,

I have a questions about recess downlighting that we are installing in our soffits for outdoor ambiance. I'm attaching here an inspiration picture (above) I had for what I want and where I wanted the lights to be installed in the home roughly (below picture). The electrician came in, and sort of intalled them, but they have not been put into the soffit yet. I don't think I like them, as they are too bright for my taste.

What type of recess lights should I have them purchase instead?

Here is where I roughly wanted them installed in my home (Highlighted in red):



And here is the home right now with the lights installed (granted they are not totally into the soffit yet). But, I wanted to get an idea of how bright they were and I just think they are way too bright.



The lights they bought look like the one in this:



Which I think are too big in diameter (maybe around 6 or more).

Should they be more like 4" lights? Like the one on this picture:



Thanks in advance for your help.

Comments (14)

  • PRO
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    You want the look of the inspo well you failed Those are tiny pot lights you have huge discs so how can you expect the same look ? Keep what you now have at the 3000K setting that will calm them down some but they say 4" but they look bigger but either return them or now use the lowest setting. Once they are up in the soffit they will not be so in your face . You say recessed but those are not thta either

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    What is the purpose of the lighting - aesthetics, security, safely navigating pathways/stairs at night?

    Part of the appeal of the inspo photo is the way the lighting is used to accent the stone and the way the upper and lower level lights are lined up to create a soft spill of light from top to bottom.

    Your lighting is not accenting the house and grounds in as flattering way as it could imo. Too many/overly large lights and too bright.

    If the pathway around the tree is not used at night, consider eliminating the path lights and maybe uplighting the tree.

    Consider eliminating the lighting on the 2nd level above the garage.

    Maybe one light instead of two to the left of the front door.

    On the left side, consider eliminating the lighting on the upper level on the right. Keep the one on the left if it is illuminating a LL door.

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    You might not have the space in the soffits to retrofit the appropriate recessed lights to achieve the look in your inspiration photo. They look like 2" cans. You need to be looking at specialized electrical supply sites and not big box stores.

    We used lights from this company, link below. Maybe you can find better option there ... and maybe a better electrician!

    https://elcolighting.com/recessed-residential



  • last year

    Hello all,

    Thank you for all your comments. The purpose of the lighting is more to accent our new siding, which will be James Hardie siding and just for overall aesthetic. Our street is pretty dark and it doesn’t have street lights. So, it is always hard to see around.

    The path lights were there before we bought the house, and I do not necessarily dislike them. It kind of gives a nice touch to the path.

    The electrician we used was one from the company that is doing the siding and yes, I agree he did not chose the right lights for this. I only gave them the inspiration picture, thinking they will know what to look for, but apparently not. So, therefore why I’m asking here.

    I might see if I can get another electrician’s opinion about what type of spots light to get.

  • last year

    Here is the pictures of how our home looked like before taking the old siding off. And then the other picture is the rendering of how it will look after the new siding is in place.

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    Do you have a lighting store nearby with a designer that can give advice on the type of lighting and placement?

  • last year

    Will try and contact a lighting store. I’m sure we have one around. Thanks for the suggestion

  • PRO
    last year

    Looks to me like the lights in your inspo photo are smaller and a lower temperature than the ones you put in. I think you want something like this instead:

    https://waclightinglights.com/product/lighting/ceiling-lights/recessed/wac-lighting-lotos-recessed-r4erar-w9cs-bk/2554627.html?vip=XPX5UWXY&utm_source=MicroShopping&utm_medium=PLA&utm_campaign=WAC-Lighting&utm_content=Ceiling-Lights-Recessed&utm_term=3455727&plp=true&plp=true


    Looks like you might be able to fit the housing in your current 4" holes while still having a smaller downlight aperature.

  • last year

    That looks like a great option. I will see if they can exchange them for those. And I’m thinking on putting them on a dimmer. Even though I won’t be able to put them on a timer as well. I would prefer to be able to get them to the right light temperature and I believe the setting the electrician put the other lights is on the lower setting if 2700 and that was still too bright.

  • last year

    Thank you 3onthetree for your comment too. The only slopped ceiling is the one by the front door. I might take that one recess lighting out all together, as I do not think that is necessary, since we will have sconces side by side of the door. For the other lights though, we do have flat soffits, and they are now just hanging because the soffits are yet to be finished.

    I will also have them replace the lights to ones “Sabrina Alfin interiors” suggested, then put them on a dimmer, so I can adjust the temperature of the lights.

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    If the lights are still too bright, then that is a LUMENS issues, and not a KELVIN issue.

    If you look on the Elco site I linked, most of the lights can be ordered with different Lumens output and Kelvin to achieve the desired results. You are looking at lights that will be $100+ each and not $17. Mine are dimmable and some are set on timers.

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    Follow Dark Sky Principles for any outdoor lighting:


    Most of those lights serve no purpose. Neither you nor your neighbors need to see your house lit up at night; they can see it all day. Lighting up the house like that just obscures the view of the night sky by you, visitors, and people walking by your house.

    The only outdoor lights needed are (a) the downlight illuminating the area in front of the garage door, (b) the step lights, and (c) the downlight over the porch. All those wall lights and soffit lights serve no purpose; eliminate them.

    The path lights in the third photo are completely inappropriate. They should be downward-facing and illuminate only the path, not the surrounding yard. Example.


    Enjoy the night sky, don't obscure it!

  • last year

    Thank you for your comment. Will consider your suggestions. The path lights were there before we got the house, but you are right, they are not just illuminating the path, but are more upward. Will see if I can change them. I like having them illuminating the path.


    I'm not planning on having the lights on all night long. Will plan to have them on a timer and a dimmer as well. Even the path lights we have on a timer.


    Anyways, thank you again.

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