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I need help on a kitchen plan.

last month

I am replacing my oak cabinets but I am running into road blocks. My kitchen has a sloped ceiling which presents some challenges. On the refrigerator wall I am removing the desk and shelves in favor of a large pantry. On the other side of the fridge is a smaller pantry I hoped to utilize as a broom closet. I think it is a better use of space but it is not balanced with that opposite wall. Is this a poor design plan? Ideas?

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  • last month
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    ?balanced with opposite wall? low relevance . skip it. but the utility items I would place on the left side of fridge/ then fridge then 18 or 21 in pantry with roll outs [single door]

    you have about 8 feet across.....I think Id skooch the stove to the left a bit and to the right of stove install a peninsula extending a few feet into the span across your kitchen. stools would be optional . but this would be the equivalent of the two carts you are striking out of the kitchen.......added bonus. is drawer storage on kitchen side. Use your space better.

    .

    there are many skinny utility options for next to fridge...taking advantage of the depth.

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  • PRO
    last month

    Hello. If you wouldn't mind posting the dimensions of your existing kitchen I would be happy to work up a new design.

  • last month

    Sure thing. It is 12ft wide and 18 long. The end of the stove wall has a 6 ft slider. The refrigerator wall has an access peto the dining room. The wall slopes up on the refrigerator wall.
    Perhaps this image helps.

  • PRO
    last month

    Thanks for the details. I will work on it tonight and have you something tomorrow

  • PRO
    last month

    Are you right or left handed?

  • PRO
    last month

    The reason I ask is I usually put the dishwasher to the right of the sink

  • last month
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    Handed-ness is irrelevant when it comes to DW placement. It doesn't matter - you adapt no matter which side the DW is on and no matter if you're right or left handed. It's all about actual Kitchen workflow and function. (Besides, if one person is right-handed and one is left-handed and both use the sink, which are you going to satisfy?)

    In all except the tiniest of Kitchens, the DW should not be b/w the sink and range, so the DW should be on the non-range side of the sink.

    You have it correct in your layout - the left side of the sink.

    In an ideal layout, the DW also would not be b/w the refrigerator and sink or refrigerator and range. However, if you have to pick one, I'd pick what you show.

    Kitchen Workflow follows the "Ice.Water.Stone.Fire" flow (see https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2699918/looking-for-layout-help-memorize-this-first) or

    Refrigerator (Ice) > Sink (Water) > Prep Counterspace (Stone) > Range (Fire).

  • last month
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    Is this your only table space or do you have a separate Dining Room? Do you have a sketch of the entire layout of the floor the Kitchen is on with rooms labeled?

    Other questions...

    • Tell us about you and your family and how you plan to use your Kitchen. All-adults? Empty Nesters? Children (now or in the future)?
    • What appliances (& their sizes) do you plan to have?
    • Where are you flexible? Can walls/windows/doors/doorways change (move, change size, add, delete)?
    • Do you have a basement under the Kitchen or are you on a slab?


    [I would also see the Read Me thread: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5972404/new-to-kitchens-read-me-first-2020-interim]

  • PRO
    last month

    I meant the left side. Sorry

  • last month

    Sure thing. It is 12ft wide and 18 long. The end of the stove wall has a 6 ft slider. The refrigerator wall has an access to the dining room. The wall slopes up on the refrigerator wall.

  • last month

    I am left handed. We have had that footprint for many years. I suits me due to where I put away dishes and glassware. I will come up with the pic of our dining space. on the stove wall I have 47 inches of wall and 76 for a sliding door. The unseen wall is a knee wall with rail. The refrigerator wall leads to dining room.

  • last month

    I am wondering if you are using the entire wall with the sliding door. I would move the stove farther to the right and have larger drawers for pots and pan. Or move it a little and have larger drawers on the right end for pots.

    I might move the refrigerator closer to the table and put in a pantry that opens from the side and is only 18 inches deep. (easier to reach items)

    I know you want more pantry space, but I like having an open counter next to the fridge to place anything I want to load into the fridge or take out. You could still gain a lot of storage with the drawers and wall cabinets above.



  • PRO
    last month

    Sorry it took me a little longer than expected but let me know what you think.

    Thanks,

    Joe




  • PRO
    last month

    Also, let me know tonight if you want to change anything please.

    I will be out of town for a week as of tomorrow.

  • PRO
    last month

    If you want to give me a call tonight my number is on my website www.kitchenspersonalized.com.

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