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Comments (13)Yes, it worked. I can convert to English units. However, key measurements are missing. It's an addition...so, are all the windows, walls, doorways still to be determined and can be anywhere based on the layout? If so, that gives you a big advantage design-wise! If not, then we need the widths of each wall/window/door/doorway and the distances b/w each wall/window/door/doorway. Here is a sample of what we need (it's also in the Layout Help FAQ I linked to above)....See Morekitchen layout, prep sink, flow... please help!
Comments (15)Key components of a functional Prep Zone: Water source in the Prep Zone (not across an aisle) Sufficient counter/work space right next to the water source: 36" is the minimum recommended by the NKBA; however, at least 42" and, preferably, more is much more functional. This space should be uninterrupted by the Cleanup Zone (i.e., dirty dishes should not be sharing the prep workspace.) If you have only one sink, then the Prep Zone should be on one side of the sink with the Trash Pullout; the Cleanup Zone should be on the other side of the sink with the DW and dish storage (plates, glasses, bowls, etc.). The Prep Zone should be on the side closest to the range/cooktop and should have the most counterspace. Trash & recycle bins should also be in the Prep Zone. More trash and recyclables are generated during prepping and cooking and for much longer work time than cleaning up, so place the trash/recycling in the Prep Zone and near the Cooking Zone. Near the Cooking Zone, preferably without crossing through the Cleanup Zone, especially an open DW door Near the refrigerator, again, preferably without crossing through the Cleanup Zone, especially an open DW door. Note: If you have to choose b/w accessing the Cooking Zone and refrigerator by crossing through the Cleanup Zone, choose the refrigerator. With the Cooking Zone, you have the potential of dealing with hot food and any obstacle (like an open DW door) can become a safety hazard. Aisle widths... First, aisles are measured to/from the things that stick out the farthest -- appliance handles, counter edges, etc. Work Aisle 42" minimum for a one-person work aisle 48" minimum for two or more people Walkway 36" if no seating, no appliances, and no workspace 44" if seating but no appliances or workspaces behind the seats. A wall with nothing on it is OK --and-- the aisle is not a major pathway 48" if the aisle is major pathway (e.g., mudroom, garage access, bedroom access, etc.) 54" or more if seating + appliances and/or workspaces behind the seats...See Moremost functional kitchen, island & pantry layout?
Comments (13)In terms of best layout, the advice in this older Kitchen Forum post is hard to beat, Looking for layout help? Memorize this first Starcraft also has a very good page on pantry layout, http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/kitchen.pantry.htm And seconding mama goose's links. The "New to Kitchens" thread has lots of useful information that helps you figure out how you and your family use your kitchen, because a lot of the planning IS person specific. One link in the New to Kitchens thread takes you to this separate thread, and I highly recommend the third post down by Buehl, under the heading "Additional Information", https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5500789/faq-how-do-i-ask-for-layout-help-what-information-should-i-include Here's just the start of that post, and there's a lot more, We also need to know something about you and your family. We're not being nosey, we need this information to help both you and us understand how your space will be used now and in the near future. Please answer the following questions: What are your goals? E.g., more counter space, more storage, seating in the kitchen (island? peninsula? table?), etc. What is your family composition? Adults? Children? Age ranges of children? Current? Future? How many kitchen workers are there? Cook(s)? Cleanup? Helpers? Now? Future? (E.g., if you have young children, plan for them to be helping out very, very soon as you begin to teach them to help out and, eventually, cook. Also, plan for them as teens for "sizing" since that will also arrive much sooner than you think!) Do you or anyone in your home cook? (No, this is not a facetious question. Some people do not cook and their kitchen is a show place only. If that is what works for you & your family, that's fine! We just need to know that.) How do you see your kitchen used? -- Just for cooking/cleaning up? -- Children doing homework while you cook? -- Party place? -- Something else? Do you entertain a lot? If so, formal? Informal? Do you want your kitchen to be a "hang out" place? Parties only? Everyday? Do you have a separate DR? Do you use it frequently? Infrequently? If infrequently, do you want to begin using it more frequently (e.g., for daily/nightly family meals)? Would you like to open up the kitchen to adjacent areas? Close it up? Do you plan to merge two rooms/areas (e.g., Nook and Kitchen into a Kitchen only) Do you have a basement under the Kitchen space? Crawl space? Slab? Where are you flexible? -- Can windows or doorways change size? -- Can windows or doorways be moved or eliminated? -- Can windows be raised/lowered? -- Does the sink have to be centered under a window? -- Does it have to be under a window at all? (Sinks under windows are an old paradigm left over from the pre-Dishwasher days. Today, we spend far, far less time cleaning up; in fact, the majority of our time spent working in the Kitchen today is spent prepping.)...See Morekitchen layout opinions/suggestions
Comments (10)Hello: In studying this for a bit (and having done both a major kitchen renovation in a previous home and custom built a home myself), a couple thoughts: You can never have enough closet space, I agree. I don’t think you’ll love that closet as you have it planned now in that location. If there’s no door there, it looks a bit like you had an afterthought about adding a closet somewhere once you started the remodel and had to find a place to build one. It’s going to obstruct your view and open concept you mention that you prefer. I think you’ll be much happier if it’s open and not there. I’d consider moving the closet to the wall where you currently have the pantry slated to go. Then I’d build a walk in pantry into the corner where you currently have the 90* corner (bottom right corner of the plan) of the kitchen. We did this in our new home and love the walk-in corner storage for food and appliances on closet-like shelving. Much more useful than that corner lower cabinetry which is hard to access or requires a lazy Susan. (We had this exact same kind of corner in our old home (remodeled it that way)...we much prefer the corner walk in pantry. I’d consider moving your kitchen sink to below one of the windows on the right side wall and move the stove into the cabinetry facing the family room (once the closet is moved.) it looks like there are two windows in that wall. It’d look better IMO if it were a larger single window, centered, if that’s at all possible. I think you’d prefer the outdoor view from your kitchen sink, a modern, hanging range hood could hang over it and not instruct the view into the family room too terribly. Far less so than that closet would. Not sure if this would all work but, but to your original question, I just don’t think you’re going to love that closet there as it’s currently planned....See Moreginny20
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