If you’re OK with a more stronger colored apricot yellow , I’d go with Abe Darby too! Both Abe and Bathsheba are very heavy bloomers, but Abe is a bigger bloom that lasts much longer and has far stronger scent.

Thank you both for your help! I will certainly look at these! Your roses are stunning and what a glorious garden scene you have. Ty!

Sultry, I saw your posts about Brugmansia plants! Do you still have any of these beauties?

Of the two , bathsheba is my personal favorite ! it grows and blooms so well . it reminds me of glowing honey. its the first rose i ordered when i moved here . it did amazing in tenn as well . i honestly think you would not regret it . its amazing !

I’m in SF, I have four Bathshebas, three in the ground, and one in a pot. She is one of my favorites. I also have one CPM planted in the ground, all are own root. I agree, Bathsheba has a very mild fragrance- myrrh with a touch of honey, but she blooms significantly more than CPM. CPM hardly blooms for me. Two of my Bathshebas are being trained over a bench. Neither CPM or Bathsheba is very tall for me, I suspect Bathsheba would grow taller if it got more sun. Both are on a south facing wall getting full sun until early afternoon. My other two Bathshebas are on a west facing fence and are easily over 6’. I don’t spray, and both have good disease resistance for me, very light BS.

I also have a Teasing Georgia between Bathsheba and CPM, she’s the tallest of the three with good bloom repeat, but she’s my least favorite of the three. She doesn’t have as good of disease resistance, more BS and rust.

Lady Brug, Sorry, I just noticed your post. I answered on the brugmansia forum :) I dont keep very many brugmansias anymore and have moved towards more non toxic plants and edible plants. I used to grow hundreds and even dabbled in hybridizing a little but I have too many farm animals and I no longer spray chemicals due to our animals, tree frogs, & wells etc. Brugmasia get sooo many pests here so keeping too many of them is too time consuming. I posted some places I know, that sell them on the brug forum.

Nick, your Bathshebas are beyond gorgeous!

My Bathshebas and Spirit of Freedoms almost always all bloom together at the same time. Flush after flush. Its weird how in-sync they are. So I think they would be good to plant together on an arch or wall if one likes that color combination lol.

My TG is very healthy in my black spot, no spray, rose hell lol. It is one of my best Austins. It isnt as fancy as some but its a workhorse here. I like big vigorous roses. The goats, chickens & random escapee piggies cant kill them.

TG in a more mellow yellow mood

Lovely to hear about Bethsheba! Last summer was my first Bethsheba! She’s a prolific bloomer and love her yellow-peachy colors! Good disease resistance, too! She’s easy to grow & in my climate easily could be 6-7ft, but I like to prune her down ro 4-5ft. She always has blooms!

I had this same debate with myself a few months ago and ended up ordering a CPM instead of a Bathsheba. Although the blooming power of Bathsheba is very appealing, I went with CPM for the bloom form and potential mango scent.

Well I selected the Bathsheba! I have crossed fingers and am hoping this new baby makes it. Here is where I planted the rose and what I’m hoping to encourage it to do. I have yet to set up the climbing wire, but that is next on my to-do!

Bathsheba is an outstanding rose for me here in Portland, Oregon. It blooms constantly and always has a lovely myrrh fragrance. Flexible canes makes it easy to train. Few thorns as well. I've had zero issues with it in three years. I don't have CPM, but it seems most people say it blooms infrequently--especially compared to Bathsheba.

Bathsheba

I also have Tangerine Skies that somebody mentioned, and I love it, but it's completely different. Mine has zero fragrance, but it does have gorgeous blooms that glow in a tangerine color. As far as it being a climber? Well, most of the canes seem to grow tall but straight and fairly rigid. I've only had it two years, but it isn't super flexible. If you're growing it up a fence it would be great. No disease issues at all.

Tangerine Skies in its first year

Hope that helps!

Robert

Oh Robert you're back! Glad to see you posting :) Your Bathsheba and Tangerine Skies are both divine! So your TS doesn't ever get any pink tones?

Hi Robert. Welcome back. I wish I had space and would allow myself to climb stepladders for Bathsheba. :Yours is so lovely. As is Tangerine Skies. How tall is your Bathsheba? Diane

@sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish) thanks so much! I needed to take a break for a bit. :)

My TS is predominantly tangerine colored, but yes, in cooler temps the edges can get a pink cast to it. I think I noticed that in the autumn.

@Diane Brakefield thank you! :) Bathsehba in my garden is only about 5' tall. Maybe 6'? It's so tame. I cut it back hard (like I do to Gertrude Jekyll) and it just keeps going complete unfazed. Mine is on a 5' obelisk with Ville de Lyon and HF Young clematis (but moving the Ville de Lyon because it's a monster). If you have just a bit of a room, add Bathsheba. I think you would love it.

Just a quick bouquet of Tangerine Skies. I forgot to mention how the stems (pedicels?) under the flowers are RED, and this definitely gives the rose a boost in drama for me. Really gorgeous rose. And in the cool 50° weather we’ve been having, it has had a very detectable, sweet, tea fragrance.

Oh my gosh, I love your Tangerine Skies so much! Those red stems are gorgous too! Just Wow!! You are right it does add a lot of drama. I had ordered a TS, a year ago but it didn't make it (deer). I recently got another one to grow on the side of a blue/green building on our property I thought the orange color would pop against a blue/green.

Im glad I read this thread. I had the same conundrum whether to order Bathsheba or CPM. I ended up buying Bathsheba and I agree with everyone’s description of it so I think I made a good choice. The only thing I can contribute is that mine is often more yellow than many other people’s seem to be. I have a couple that are more ivory, apricot and yellow blended together beautifully that I consider true to form, but mine has more prominent yellow than most photos show. Bought mine potted directly from DA 3 years ago.

Here are the first blooms from my little baby bare root I planted this year. I really thought it had died, but then weeks later it started growing and it seems like it is happy!