bethroom door from the kitchen is a very undesirable feature

youll have to sketch out what exists now and what you propose to change. It appears a change will occurr for a bath and a change of staircase locations. and yet you only get a 12 foot kitchen wall and a small island ??? and left w "all kinds of crazy space in front door zone" . Much more info needs to be provided. Looks like things are being considered beyond scope of kitchen .

@Suki Mom - bathroom can not be changed.

@herbflavor - I did not provide the before as the kitchen will be gutted. I can provide the before but staircases have been moved. This is an 1800's farmhouse with limitations due to additions through the years.

Can you move the bathroom door to the end wall?

@herbflavor Here is the before of the kitchen. We changed the staircase leading from back of house - it is no longer a walk through of the bathroom to get to the main section of the house & have now cut into kitchen space. Changing staircase also allowed us to have a full bath & not having guests potentially being "walked in on" while taking a duce.

We need more detailed dimensions as well as what appliances & their sizes you have planned.

What is the Dining Room becoming? You're not extending the Kitchen into that room.

If that 8' wall is a load-bearing wall and you want to open it up into the Kitchen for a Pantry door, you will still have to deal with the load.

What dimensions do we need? The following is taken from the Featured Answer in the "New to Kitchens? Read Me First!" thread:

...we mean a layout with the widths of each wall/window/door/doorway and the distances between each wall/window/door/doorway labeled.. If something cannot be moved or changed, label it precisely on your layout (see post in sample) and tell us why it cannot be moved/changed -- we may have some ideas for you.

Regardless of how you draw it up (by hand, computer, etc.), please be sure all measurements are labeled. (Note: Computer generated layouts often lack key measurements and, sometimes, measure to/from things like the middle of a wall or the middle of a window. Neither are useful. Measure each item and the distances between each item.)

Other questions...

• Tell us about you and your family and how you plan to use your Kitchen. Children in the future? Empty Nesters?
• What appliances (& their sizes) do you plan to have?
• Where are you flexible? Can walls/windows/doors/doorways change (move, change size, add, delete)?
• Do you have a basement under the Kitchen or are you on a slab?

have you installed the new windows where front door was? that is a kitchen wall......usually any and all kitchen walls are best put to use for kitchen functions as opposed to full height windows. Cant tell. You can make an old fashioned parlor aesthetic for your entry now centered on the front of the house. You surrendered a porch it appears. If you put a nice screen door to get summer breezes maybe a small sitting room or the like, could be interesting there w a small parlor style table. I dont know if you have inspirations or desires for how this 225 yr old structure should look and function for you. Have you worked w a designer at all?

your entry now w door centered along the front......

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If you cant use your front wall in the kitchen due to windows I think youll need that "pantry wall" but wait to see if it really will be a pantry. then your entry parlor can be something if you move coat closet instead to the square alcove by the staircase and ?chimney left standing ? If you have 8 feet of pantry wall on the kitchen side it can be 12 or 15 inches deep for good storage/ maybe some counter too .... and not cut into kitchen sq footage or entry area too much.

You need a drawing of the GUTTED space, all the walls, windows, doorway, chimney exact inches. Elevation of windows ( bottom ) from the floor.........all of it including the former dining space etc. right to the front door.

Wild suggestions of what to do, what works and no drawing to go with those suggestions is nothing more than B.S.......without that information.

Read @ Buehl above. That is how you begin.

Can you put lower cabinets on the window wall that used to be the porch? How high are the windows from the floor. That would make a nice lower cabinet wall with a sink and dishwasher. It looks like you have enough room as well to have a front door closet AND a pantry on the kitchen side.