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last year

Can someone please tell me what's going on with these perfect lines and pattern issues?? The cabinet manufacturer is tryin to tell me some of these are just "Natural" wood.. Thoughts??



Worst one by far..



Perfect Lines


Lines


Strain off?


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  • PRO
    last year

    Some of these are just "Natural" wood..

  • last year

    Strips of veneer. It is natural but I would have thought they would have used other than 4" or 5" wide strips.

  • last year

    Don't leave that blue tape on there for too long. It can mess up some finishes.

  • last year

    The quality level and matching of the veneers is involved. This flat panel design language should require careful matching of the veneers to make the whole kitchen facade blend together as a successful unit, imo. Who is the manufacturer? Can you show a published sample gallery?

  • PRO
    last year
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    It IS natural wood. That's a section where you see a "curly maple" pattern. That's a much more desirable veneer, but having it appear in the middle of regular veneer isn't usually done. The overall veneer selection wasn't selected with the eye towards maximum aesthetics. It was selected for yield, and low cost. Which brings up the overall cost of the cabinets. 150K? 100K? 10K?

  • last year

    What part is natrual?? Natural wood doesn't perfect straight lines through it that make it look like panels.. It's Medallion Cabinets.

  • last year

    It is veneer. Do you know what veneer is?

  • last year

    Yes, it is veneer.. It's 1 piece, not multiple pieces put together.. Correct??

  • last year

    That's the issue.. It's not suppose to be... It's suppose to be 1 piece..

  • PRO
    last year

    Yes, it is veneer.. It's 1 piece, not multiple pieces put together.. Correct??


    No, not correct.


    Do a web search for sliced veneer.

    Here is a link to get you started: https://www.columbiaforestproducts.com/library/reference-guides/grading-guide/veneer-cuts-and-matching/

  • last year
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    As soon as I looked at your first photo, I thought, "Wow - too small widths of veneer were used!"

    It is definitely not one piece of veneer that was used to make your slab doors. Typically, smaller sheets of veneer are spliced together to make a wider sheet. It may be one sheet - but it's made up of smaller individual sheets.

    For example, I have a fireplace in my kitchen that has recessed wood panels above the mantle that continue to the ceiling.

    example of recessed wood paneling (although this is painted and mine isn't):



    Mine is made with rift sawn oak. It is divided into three sections - the middle recessed section is 32" wide x 36" tall (the two side ones are a much smaller width (a little less than 8"). Veneers were used in the recessed sections and solid wood boards were used to make the moulding in between each recessed panel.

    I can see the veneer sheets that were spliced together to make the 32" wide piece for the middle section - but they are much wider than what has been used on your slab doors. It looks like the individual veneer sheets are about 8" wide = four of them in the middle section.


    However, it's not something that I notice when looking at it. I think my veneer sheets are book matched/sequenced = sheets look better next to each other when spliced.


    I'm not at home - so, I don't have a photo.

  • last year
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    it looks like your doors could be Avalon in Silverline grade or Bella in Gold grade.

    Bella-

    Gold Full Overlay

    Straight-Grain Veneer Details

    • Door and drawer front are constructed from 3/4″ thick veneered MDF material with 3mm thick, 6 ply wood veneer edge banding.
    • Veneer on doors/drawers is quartersawn/riftsawn material. This cut of wood produces clean, straight vertical grain patterns.
    • Door and drawer fronts maintain slab design with vertical grain direction.
    • Veneer on doors/drawers is not book matched, grain matched or sequence matched; graining does not line up between doors or drawer fronts.

    Avalon has less grain matching because it's the lower grade.

  • PRO
    last year

    What you labelled "worst so far" is slip-matched veneer. I personally like that look for contemporary cabinets, but that look would need to be coordinated across all of the cabinets not a random cabinet or two.

  • last year

    There's nothing in that description thqt says this is strips of veneer vs a single sheet of veneer. It talks about not being grain matched, and the doors and drawers in the same cabinet not being matched up - but not that you'd see the strips.


    I think it will fade in time for you - and while the one cab with the curly maple looks cool - not as a one off when all the others are stright grained.

  • last year

    Looks like most factory manufactured cabinets where a machine used whatever wood was installed into it. As a customer woodworker that has glued up thousands of kitchen door panels using solid 3/4" wood. Matching the grain colors and patterns is one of the most difficult parts. Particularly when orientation of annual growth rings and grain direction are used correctly.

    If the door/doors are the same size. It may be possible to switch some of them out so they flow together better.

  • PRO
    last year

    The first image reminds me of a chorus line.

  • PRO
    last year

    One of the issues with not choosing custom cabinets is receiving a non custom result. Imagine that! Expense associated with higher quality and more attention to detail.

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