What is the scent like? Golden Celebration has a strong scent whereas Graham Thomas is light. Also Golden Celebration has twice as many petals. Based on the last photo, I'd lean Graham Thomas.

Here is my Golden Celebration. What do you think? I think you have Graham Thomas, but you never know, I could be wrong.

I've had both and I think it looks more like GT.

Thank you everyone! The flowers definitely don't match yours Diane's - looks like yours are more globular and have more petals. The irony is the reason I chose Golden Celebration over Teasing Georgia was your beautiful GC photos.

I'm still not sure it is GT though, when I look at pics online I'm seeing darker shinier leaves on GT and my rose has very matte leaves that are a bright apple green. I don't have any other rose that has such a vivid green color. Mine also has a strong very fruity fragrance, definitely not tea like it says GT is on HMF. Is it possible mine is some other yellow rose, maybe Roald Dahl?

I feel the odds of it being mislabeled twice would be pretty crazy though. They're all starting to look very similar the more I look at all the different yellow Austin's

Although the leaves look like they might be Roald Dahl, I'd say no based on the flower, which is more inwardly cupped in my experience.

@Elestrial 7a I have both GT and GC, and my GT has matte leaves that are a birght apple green. But so does GC. However, the canes on my GT are far more flexible than GC.

But I disagree with Diane (which I never do!) and think yours is Golden Celebration. My GT has almost imperceptible scent, and while the flowers are full, they are not as full as GC, and the photos you share look exactly like my GC. GC is sooooooo fragrant and the color is less yellow than GT (in my opinion). Coloring will also be determined by how much sun/shade you get.

I can add this--my GT blooms blow very quickly and GC does not. GC blooms are bigger and fuller (like yours) and are quite fragrant with a good fruity scent. Both of mine bloom a lot. Hard to say if one blooms more than the other.

But yes, I think you have Golden Celebration.

I’ve never seen Golden Celebration’s or Graham Thomas’s petals reflex like what is shown above. Is there a chance it could be something else like Golden Opportunity (I have never grown this one, though) or another non-DA?

@roserobertpdx Thank you! I've gotten quite a few answers and it's pretty evenly split between GC and GT, maybe that's why there was a mix up with the labels on mine to begin with! I can say with confidence that mine is definitely a fruity scent that wafts well and it's strong. Concerning the canes, mine are fairly pliable and I've been training it to climb, but they're not super flexible. Definitely more flexible than some of my other climbers. I genuinely can't remember how fast the blooms blew over, will have to watch this year and I can report back. It's on a west facing wall so it gets full sun in the afternoon, bloom frequency was on the slower side of average. Definitely not continual like Diane's

Is there any notable differences between the stems & thorns on your GC and GT?

@Dave5bWY I mean, anything is possible. I'm open to any other guesses, a lot of the DA yellows look really similar in the photos online - very frustrating! I do think it's a DA though, or at least a rose with DA genetics, it has that same kind of english rose look, strong fragrance, and grows the same as my other DAs do here with the awkward long octocanes

I was trying to find buds, thorns, and leaves here, plus show how flexible the canes are and GC's growth habit. The buds often have a lot of red in them. This is a very flexible rose that produces really long canes. Like I said it's about 9 feet tall and six feet wide.

Thank you @Diane Brakefield - my flowers don't look globular at all like yours, so maybe mine is GT? Unless climate can have an impact on that, I don't know. The buds, leaves and canes look about the same as mine but it kinda seems like these two roses share a lot in common with that. Mine is about 5' tall now and about 6-7' wide, the canes tend to bend downward a lot I guess from the weight of the blooms so it's hard to get it to grow upward instead of outward

Mostly my GC grows very upward, but I encourage some canes to bend downward to show a graceful bloom, or I like to twine a cane through porch railings. I don't think your rose looks like mine as far as the blooms or growth habit of the shrub, as I said. The leaves are matte, though, for both roses. Diane

GC playing with Boscobel.

In one of Diane's pictures the branch the rose is on is very red, i don't know if that comes with age or if both GT and GC have red canes.

opineonline, I think that's a trick of the light in the photo with the buds that have some red coloration. GC really doesn't have red canes that I remember. Now Brother Cadfael has beautiful wine colored canes, especially the newer canes, and very few thorns, too. Diane

I have had both and roserobert’s descriptions exactly match my experience. The softer golden tones (sometimes almost apricot) and higher petal count of GC compared to GT’s clearer yellow and lesser petals, the much stronger fruity citrus fragrance of GC verses the milder myrrh/a bit fruity fragrance of GT. Both had bright apple green foliage and I can’t say I noticed any difference in thorns, plus both had flexible canes and nodding blooms. I don’t recall if GT had reflexed petals but GC certainly did on occasion.

My vote is with GC!

I dug out these photos of a bouquet of GC that I got from GRF back in 2020. They started out chalice-shaped like Diane's blooms, but here they are seen at the end of their vase life looking somewhat closer to Elestrial's blooms. I remember the very strong fruity scent. I realize performance in a vase isn't exactly the same as how a bloom behaves on the bush, but I thought it might still be worth it to post these for reference.

Thanks all! I don't think my blooms were ever chalice shaped, but maybe I didn't take pictures soon enough. I'm going to wait for mine to bloom and then come back with pictures as the flowers open

@Elestrial 7a, May I ask a rather naïve question? Would you remove the plant if it does not end up having the globular shape? It seems that you have a mannerly plant with the color and fragrance profile of GC.

@jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal Nooo, I love it, whatever it is. It just really bugs me not knowing WHAT it is. I'd also like to label the photos correctly that I uploaded to HMF - right now they're assigned to Golden Celebration

@Elestrial 7a here is a photo of GC this morning. It is my first rose to bloom this spring! Mine is not as full as Diane’s, but mine is only four years old. The black on the leaves is hail damage, not black spot. We had a lot of hail this spring when the new foliage was sprouting.

The buds of my GC have red in them too. Same as with GT (which is a parent of GC I think?).

Our temps are cool now, hence the deeper color. But come summer, they get quite a bit lighter like yours:

@Elestrial 7a, I see... As other growers have noted, my GC has a moderate to strong fruity fragrance, much like a pleasant grapefruit to my nose.

IMHO, I’d venture to say you likely have GC, but that it hasn't presented a globular form.

I think your conscientiousness to label images correctly on hmf is admirable. It‘s an example of how wonderful the community of rose gardeners truly is. Our experiences can help others learn the dynamic range of what these varieties “look and feel” like to make informed decisions, commiserate, and experience the woes and joys of such beautiful plants!

I hope you’ll feel assured in the ID of your plant as it continues to flourish in your garden!

GC doesn't have a fruity fragrance to my nose. Diane

Had both. Looks just like my GT i used to have. GC is a different type of yellow and shape entirely.

If you like more flowers, GT produced more than GC in my full sun location, but GC is a bigger flower, globular, and stronger smell