Take these suggestions with a grain of salt, since my conditions are totally different than yours, but...

Roses don't get much "cooler" pink than New Dawn. Yes, she's a beast, but if you get the real thing, and not a reversion to Dr W. Van Fleet, you'll get good re-bloom. It will cover any arbor or gazebo, the canes are stout but flexible. Absolutely disease free here for me in BS heaven/hell. Only a faint soapy apple scent. The big draw back is the vicious thorns. There's a reason my nephew calls it New D*mn. There was a new "d*mn!" floating through the air every time he got caught while pruning it, lol.

ND's sport (probably!), Awakening, can be slightly darker, but has a much more double bloom. Some think is has a stronger scent, as well, but I can't detect a difference. It has the same evil thorns. Our dear friend Lynette (Old Rosarian), once told me that Awakening performed better in less than ideal situations than ND will. To be precise, she said ND required better soil, more fertilizer and a pruning after blooming (which she admitted she rarely did) to really match Awakening in flower power.

Another cool pink you might look at is Isabella Skinner/Victorian Memory. It's darker, but it's a cool, blue-ish pink, so it still registers as "cool". You obviously don't require its hardiness, but it is reputed to be hardy to Z3 (or even 2b!!!!). The canes are long and limber, it has massive flushes if fed adequately, and it has a strong old rose scent. The thin petals might be a problem in your heat, but you might ask @roseseek (Kim Rupert) if he has any experience with this rose. He's grown so many! lol.

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Sadly, Victorian Memory blackspots here. I love the color.

I really regret getting New Dawn — it’s not the repeat-blooming version (still don’t know why), and it’s gotten massive.
A few days ago, one section fell off the fence, and it took a lot of effort to put it back. Now another part has collapsed too. The 4-year-old canes are like tree branches.
The only reason I haven’t removed it yet is because it covers my neighbor’s fence.

This is last year, this year all neighbors fence is covered. From side to side its 25ft.

@jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal @fig_insanity Z7b E TN's suggestions of New Dawn and Awakening are very good for colder, wetter conditions. From experience, neither are happy in Zones 9b/10a SoCal. Mildew is heavy, the color is faded "flesh" and many years, New Dawn refuses to repeat. For harsher climates, they're wonderful, but not in the hotter "land of endless summer". Where they are happy, both are glorious. After seeing them where they are good, encountering them where they aren't is really a disappointment.

I don't know if you can find one, nor if the color is acceptable to you, but Social Climber proved itself a magnificent landscape climber in the San Fernando and Santa Clarita Valleys and was also superb in Pacific Palisades. It's actually a bit more controlled plant size wise and flowers like a weed. This photo is from the San Francisco Bay area. https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.145613 It's really a nice plant and bloom and I love the name! https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.36729&tab=1

@fig_insanity Z7b E TN yes sir! I had Isabella Skinner in the Newhall garden way back in the early 90's. It grew as a free standing shrub in that garden and flowered most of the summer. It was interesting seeing slides of it at a presentation at the Celebration of Old Roses in El Cerrito, Ca years later being called "Victorian Memory" and being able to identify it as Isabella. She has an odd scent, not displeasing, just "different". I'd purchased her out of curiosity and in hopes of using her for breeding due to her extreme cold hardiness. She refused every effort, unfortunately, but she was interesting. She didn't much care for that Zone 9b heat, though.

@elenazone6 All it takes for you to get the non-repeat version of ND is for someone to propagate a cutting from a cane that has reverted to the original Dr. W. Van Fleet. They are identical except ND repeats, DWVF does NOT. It's impossible to tell which you have until it doesn't repeat. If yours doesn't repeat, you have DWVF, even if it *started* as a cutting from ND in the nursery you bought it from. Ideally, ND should only be propagated in late summer AFTER it has bloomed again, and only from canes that have spent blooms on them!

@roseseek Kim, I was afraid my suggestions wouldn't fly in CA. That's why I sent for you, hehe. But here in my garden, my suggestions are some of my most prized, if most feared, roses, lol.

@fig_insanity Z7b E TN thanks. No worries. All any of us can do is report on how the danged things perform when and where we've seen or grown them. New Dawn, like Ballerina, has entrapped many due to Graham Stuart Thomas' and Peter Beales' writings. Both praised them as "perfect", which they may be in Britain, but as with so many others, they HATE "endless summer". Beales praised Ballerina as "one of our most reliable small shrubs", leading at least one landscraper to spec 150 one gallon plants as "ground cover" for an installation. First, NO ONE in the market had that many of THAT rose and explaining to a "designer" who had read Beales, through a middle person who had no understanding, nor really any interest in the issue, that where they were to be planted, they grew like a rampant multiflora rambler and embraced every fungal infection available, was a real "joy". So, your suggestions experience the same "location, location, location" issues mine do for Tennessee! Fortunately, we both have friends who can provide what we each lack...experience!

jjkOC, now that we have @roseseek involved, I wonder if there's any chance you could find an Annie Laurie McDowell. It would be perfect, but I hesitated to suggest it since it is SOOOOO hard to come by.

@fig_insanity Z7b E TN and @jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal IF that's desired, it's perfect timing for setting it up with Steve Singer at Wisconsin Roses to bud one to multiflora and provide a stentling at the end of the season. Then, there is also the possibility of doing the same with Cl Columbia. I have both. Both are thornless; both are intensely scented and both flower repeatedly. https://wiroses.com/ Read "What is a maiden?", "Growing Instructions" and "How to order". All monies go to Wisconsin Roses for their providing the stock, labor for budding and then providing the custom propagated maiden and shipping. Annie Laurie McDowell https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.32672 Climbing Columbia https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.19404&tab=1

@roseseek, @fig_insanity Z7b E TN, OMG! What an amazing trove of information this thread is! I have been looking for ALMD for a while, since kindly-gifted cuttings failed to root successfully.

Kim, How lovely it would be to finally grow ALMD! I will reach out to the budder you mentioned; if there are any other instructions I would greatly appreciate hearing from you by dm or email! I am unfamiliar with Climbing Columbia; I’ll read more about this variety.

I’ve read glorious accounts of New Dawn, but had always thought it was such a larger-than-life beast of a plant. It’s so intriguing that there is a reverted form of it in-circulation as well.

@roseseek @elenazone6 @Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR, the warmer shade of Rosarium Uetersen’s bloom reminds me of Barden’s Won Fang Yon, but with more rounded petals!

So thankful for all the experience and knowledge imparted here!

@jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal I've emailed Steve to alert him to this possibility, so if you want to go that route, let him know what you want and he'll let me know when he needs the bud wood. All I'd advise is to follow the instructions on his site and all should be good. Annie will grow much more quickly budded than own root, but dis budding to prevent flowering at the expense of growth is still beneficial to push maturity more quickly. She'll push that long, smooth, thick wood with bazillians of buds significantly faster once there is a vigorous root system under her and a large foliage mass to support both. You don't get this from an immature plant. These require a large foliage mass to generate. Not letting it flower until it has a large plant mass will get you these much faster.

@roseseek, THANK YOU!!! I’ll contact Mr. Singer! And surely, I will faithfully debud for as long as needed! It will be like caring for baby citrus trees; ALMD seems to have just as many buds as my young Pomelo tree which I’ve debudded so that it could concentrate on bulking up!

I read what I could find about Columbia Cl. What an amazing slice of American rose breeding history that this variety represents. From Indiana to the world! With so many positive traits, it’s a wonder and travesty that it is not in commerce! I would love to grow this rose! Even more so because of its history. Kim, how is it’s disease resistance and trainability?

@jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal Cl Columbia IS a 90 year old climbing sport of an older Hybrid Tea so where disease issues are bad, it can contract them. However, at The Huntington Library rose garden from where I rooted this thirty-plus years ago; in my old Newhall garden; in jimofshermanoaks garden in Sherman Oaks; in my former garden in Encino and here in Santa Maria, there are no fungal issues. It's just clean. I grew it in Newhall as an upright, free standing shrub as there was nothing upon which to provide it support. It grew and flowered. When I had to dismantle that garden, Jim Delahanty took it home to his garden in Sherman Oaks. As his health began to fail, he passed it back to me and it went to the Encino garden. I brought it here with me a decade ago when we cashed out of LA and moved to the "coolth".

It's a bit stiff, as climbing sports of HTs tend to be, so it isn't AS limber as a multiflora or wichurana rambler, but it's SMOOTH, willing and smells GOOD with large flowers. Rosemary Sawyer, who owned Rosemary's Roses up in Columbia, CA, had one she allowed to ramble through the line of trees she used as a wind break around her propagation area. Parts of the plant were easily twenty feet up into the trees. I could trace where it grew by those huge, pink flowers.

You won't regret growing it. While not "perfect", what plant of any type is? It's a glorious thing and well worth the space in any garden. It's definitely one which benefits from training low to begin with as its laterals can be long so you want the main canes lower so you'll have the flowers at face level instead of up in the trees.

@Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR and @roseseek, both Irene Bonnet and Columbia Cl. seem very vigorous on their own roots. I am curious if budding of climbing sports of old HTs ofter any additional benefits, or is it primarily for establishing the plant? Put another way, can budding ever be too much of a good thing? I am also curious whether either of these varieties ball in early spring moist weather. Would you comment on these points?

@Diane Brakefield, Ballerina always seems to have such a cheerful look, blooming shades of soft pink, en-masse. It’s such a pity it’s uncommon around my neck of the woods. It certainly makes a stunning impact! Yours is so pretty!

I can chime in to say that Irene Bonnet never balls for me, and I live in an area that gets a lot of morning fog in the summer. Another rose to consider is Lady Waterlow (which is a parent of the true Emmanuella de Mouchy). I'd say it's more elegant than Irene Bonnet but not as show stopping.

Balling has never been an issue for me with Cl Columbia. We're nine, flat miles from the Pacific Ocean here, over berry and vegetable fields. Most house roofs have algae growing on them. "Green" terra cotta tile roofs are the norm. Most mornings it appears as if it's rained, the marine influence is so heavy. I don't even experience any of the Teas here balling, primarily because if balling was listed as an issue on their HMF page, I avoided them.

If you want a really cheerful "Ballerina" type with NO health issues and more color, check out Pookah. Burlington regularly has it, in fact, she introduced it. From its Comments section on HMF: " I wonder if we might update and do a bit of correction on the history of this rose. Jim Delahanty registered and introduced this rose in the USA, and we can all be grateful for that! But I don’t believe Jim ever claimed to have been the “breeder” of the rose (I notice in the Member Comments here, that he said "I haven't a clue as to the breeding lines") Actually, it has a longer and more international history: Jim received the rose long ago from India, via friends who got it from Mr. J P Agarwal of Friends Rosery, Lucknow. Mr. Agarwal had named it “China 65,” the name under which it is still grown in India (and likely should be listed as synonymous here). Mr. Agarwal originally imported it from the famed Fa Tee Nursery in Guangzhou, China, in 1965. I don’t know any more of its history before that. From the 1996 Friends Rosery Catalogue (text written by the son, Mr. Ashok Agarwal): "China 65. New. An introduction from China. An exceptional beauty in dwarf polyanthas. My father was simply mesmerized by its medium pink huge clusters of conical shape." "

Cl Columbia does grow acceptably own root. My original plant, which made the rounds, was own root. I budded it here on Pink Clouds because rooting is much easier with HEAT and we don't have "HEAT". I gave up using Fortuniana and Huey root stocks as they DEMAND heat to both root and push buds and we simply do NOT have it. In Encino, both rooted like weeds and buds pushed magnificently. Nights were cooler and days had long periods of "inland valley heat". Nights here are down right chilly, like electric blanket chilly (no joke, mine hasn't turned off since last summer) and IF there is "heat" during the day, it comes in mid day, in the direct sun, until the ocean breeze starts and that is REFRIGERATED. That lack of heat translates in to huge changes in propagation. Sequoia was so tremendously successful all those decades because it was HOT there. I took cuttings to them in October and in April I would pick up well rooted, mature one gallon plants. So, I bud anything I really want to make sure of it taking. That does help establish nearly everything faster and does push growth better than waiting for them to establish sufficient roots to push growth, because the roots of the stock are more vigorous and the scion has the advantage of a more mature root system immediately. If you can root cuttings and want to try, that, also, can be arranged.

I get your point about possibly budding something that doesn't require it. MANY years ago, I supplied budwood of Mme Alfred Carriere for Ashdown and Arena budded them. VERY young, immature, newly budded plants in the fields were MONSTROUS. The maiden growth had been cut back and they looked as if they had been growing in place for many seasons. Paul Zimmerman and I both laughed at how unnecessary it was to bud that rose, but that was the established method of production in place, so they got budded. Customers receiving those plants really got huge bare roots of that variety.

@roseseek, OT are you involved with HMF? I accidentally signed out and havent been able to sign back in as the associated emailed was hacked and stolen. No one answered my queries atvthe time.

No balling here for EdM/IB.

@Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley I've been a volunteer on the site for (checks notes...) twenty-ish years. I'm sorry you've had a problem accessing the site. The email you want to keep is roses@helpmefind.com . That's where you get movement and help. I'd email an explanation of what happened and what the results have been since. Include the email your account is attached to; your screen name; date of problem and, if you have a new email you wish the membership attached to, include that, also. They'll be able to look at your account and figure out what happened and how to fix it. I can do some things on the site but I haven't the security clearance to access anyone's account nor make any changes to them.

Here is another cool pink, Jeanne Lajoie.

Thank you so much, @roseseek! I will try that tomorrow.

Sheila, i've also love jleJ, but didn't realize you gew it. Does it repeat for you?

@Formerly RBEHS Z10A/S17 and @Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR, thank you for confirming that Irene Bonnet does not ball! I had not heard of Lady Waterlow or Jeanne Lajoie before, so I’ll have to read about them!

@roseseek, thank you for confirming that Columbia Cl. doesnt ball! I looked up pics of Pookah; what an utterly charming rose! Such a cute and happy color!

I also appreciate the history and personal stories you shared. It made me wonder if such stories have been recorded in a book. Have you, or other rosarians, hybridizers, and enthusiasts written such stories into a book? I think rose lovers would enjoy reading them! I know I would!

As for a budded MAC, given all that I’ve read about this variety on her own roots; I think my jaw would’ve dropped seeing the monstrous growth you shared about on a maiden rose!

@Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley, thank you for catalyzing this dialog.

So very grateful to everyone for stimulating so many new ideas about planting a pink climber!

I believe Jeanne repeats here, Vapor.

Jeanne repeated in Encino, CA. Zone 10a.

Great thread. Pookah looks wonderful; I'll have to see if Bierkreek still carries it, or else that other nursery in Germany. Here in Italy, I could easily get a Ballerina, and in fact was seriously considering doing so ,since I want something that's light pink and delicate-looking that covers itself in flowers to complement my dark floribundas in one area. But now I wonder about the issues of which Kim writes. My climate, however, is not the same as that of California, methinks. @Diane Brakefield-yours looks glorious (as do all your roses),but , though I forget your USDA zone,your climate, too, is quite different from mine. I guess I'll start a thread on Ballerina.

My ALMcD started out as grafted, but the rootstock kept on trying to take over, so I encouraged it to go own-root. It is being slow, still in a pot; I'd like to get it into the ground but must wait to be sure that it's got enough bulk on it to survive in my garden. I'm encouread by the fact that this season it seems to be less focused on flowering than it was before,and more focused on growing. The fact that the weather has tended to be blessedly on the cool-grey-rainy side is probably a HUGE advantage.

@User, California has various zones and many many microclimates. In my locale, gardeners enjoy a Mediterranean climate and local gardener friends live in USDA zones 9b-10b. What is the zone for your part of Italy?

O, I guess it's about an 8B or some such,but I don't take that zone stuff seriously; all it provides is info for winter hardiness. Here winter is NOT the problem; the problem is summer heat/sun/drought. Global warming has hit Italy incredibly hard; the climate has been completely ruined, though this year I am happy to say that we did-finally- get an acceptable amount of rain during fall and winter,something which has been lacking for several years now.

Winters have become too mild here recently, as well. Yet I would hesitate to call this climate one of "endless summer" (and I fervantly pray that it never will become such!) You definitely need a different wardrobe for winter-you need warm clothes, hats, coats, etc. The sun gets to be very, very low on the horizon,and the days become very short. As far as temperatures go, well, suffice it to say that though I love the look of jacarandas, I don't think I could grow one successfully out at my garden.

I just want to put in a word for 'Lavender Lassie'. I don't grow it but it used to be a tremendous favorite of many. I don't know if it has been superseded, but you seldom hear about it now. I kind of wish I had planted it on my back fence instead of the scentless Jeanne la Joie

This helpmefind photo is from New Jersey. https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/fs/285/146079.jpg

And here is a picture of it with 'Alchemist' (a show stopper if there ever was one but once blooming and apricot) https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/fs/508/260387.jpg

Here my JlaL is planted with LL and JlaJ makes a bigger show.

jjoc, if you want to conside a climber that's peachy pink to apricot, consider Colette. I've grown her for many years and wouldn't be without her. She is a Meilland Romantica. Diane

@monarda_gw, I’d agree, I don’t read much about Lavender Lassie, but I have seen pics of her engulfing neighboring shrubs! I’d need a more mannerly climber, though Ive read that Lavender Lassie has a nice fragrance! Alchemist is a beautiful climber as well. I’ve admired it from many a post, but I really am looking for a cool/lilac pink variety. I‘ve been tempted to plant Alchemist or some other peach climber along the back fence!

@Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR, it seems like Jeanne Lajoie might be more vigorous than Lavender Lassie based on your observation. Do you think they prefer different exposures?

@Diane Brakefield, Done! I loved pics of Colette grown by other gardeners here, yours included! It’s already planted in the peach-colored rose bed! :D

I had Lavender Lassie from Roses of Yesterday and Today in my first garden in Granada Hills in the San Fernando Valley way back in the early 1980s. It LOVED mildew and it flowered primarily in spring. I tried it from a different source when I moved the garden to Newhall. Same results. The garden in Old Orchard, Valencia had one...spring flowering and mildew. It went away and I replaced it with the Rosarium Uetersen I posted several days ago. I've seen it in colder climates and it's been gorgeous but it definitely seems less inclined to be happy where there is no real "winter".

I think Kim is right that LL is less suitable to my climate than JlJ.

I didn't mean to suggest Alchemist -- just couldn't resist the beautiful picture of it with LL. I am sorry LL isn't suitable for your climate. But you have a wealth of other great choices, thankfully.

Gosh, reading through my notes from this thread, indeed @monarda_gw, there are so many wonderful options to choose from! I’ll be ordering a couple to trial and hopefully in a few seasons I can share some lovely pics! Fingers-crossed!

Among the climbing roses I have planted, the only ones that fit the cool pink category seem to be Auswith and Generous gardener. Auswith is pearl pink, with many flowers that last long, but the downside is that the fragrance is not strong. Generious gardener has no thorns, grows vigorously, has a strong fragrance, and likes the morning sun. But the flowers don't last long. And parade is probably a fuschia color? Except for the lack of fragrance, it is in all aspects.

Auswith

Generous gardener

I love my PIP Eden climbers! Not sure if that’s the color you’re looking for.

There is no perfection in this world, but I do hope jjkOC finds the sought-after one, has fun trying, and will keep us posted.

@monarda_gw, Thanks so much for your well-wishes! I surely hope I will!

@wing Wing and @Andrea zone 9b, if I am ever seeking a fuschia climber, I will definitely consider Parade and Pretty in Pink Eden. Your respective roses are beautiful!

@jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal High Society, introduced with Social Climber, is a fuchsia/magenta climber introduced by J&P back in 2001. It was actually a rather nice climber. https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.36974&tab=1

Those two have such great name, I've always thought. They crack me up.

@Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley, me, too! LOL!

@roseseek, High Society and Social Climber are on my list of bright pink/fuchsia roses! I still remember the first time I saw High Society at the Huntington in San Marino! I was spellbound.

@jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal I don't blame you! What's as mesmerizing to me is High Society was mined from Dynamite X Cl America? Wow!

@Andrea zone 9b, I also very like PIP Eden, but my is not as vigorous as yours. Amazing climber!

Based on this post if I had to choose it would be hands down Sheila's Emmanuella de Mouchy or, for a more apricot tone, Diane's Colette. They are gorgeous beyond belief. Gertrude Jekyll is another one I'd consider although I understand she's a thorny monster, although apparently the fragrance is superb.

A cool pink rambler, if a once bloomer will do, is 'May Queen'. https://historische-rosen-schuett.de/shop/may-queen/

Then there is a new rose sold as 'Rise Up Lilac Days' in the US and 'Lilac Bouquet' in Europe. I've seen it described as a lilac version of the warm pink hybrid musk 'Cornelia', a famous old rose which received the highest ratings from the American Rose Society, back in the day: https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.409820.