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urgent help for orange wood ceiling

2 months ago

You all have been a huge help and hoping you can help with final piece.

Having cabinets professionally painted by a cabinet company. Going to pure white perimeter cabinets and peppercorn island. Fantasy brown counters.

Here is the challenge - the orange toned wood ceiling. I currently have shiitake from Sherwin-Williams on the walls but fields too dark… I keep coming back to drift of mist and I wanna make sure that it tones down the orange in the ceiling… It’s light enough forming and blends really well with the cabinet colors… But curious as the thoughts on how it would look with the Orangetown ceiling… Trying to get rid of the overpowering orange. This is the sample above pure white trim on top of shiitake walls under the orange ceiling.

Comments (81)

  • 2 months ago

    ^^ Ditto.

  • 2 months ago

    It is interesting to hear people say that none of these colors work. I agree they are not the best. BUT, if this ceiling were instead a wood floor, would we say you have to meet the intensity of it or could we consider it slightly more of a neutral background against which other neutrals and peppercorn would look fine?


    Find the right neutral for both the cabinet and walls. Throw some great orange toned bit wood bowls on the table. Consider it an accent - one that is too orange for your taste but an accent none the less.


    I hate a two story ceiling, but at least this one has some interest.



  • 2 months ago

    OK, here is the sample that I painted on the wall… Shiitake is obviously the darker color drift of mist is the lighter color

    And the picture with the door frame that is painted pure white and that is right next to where the kitchen cabinets will go and they will be pure white as well from Sherwin-Williams

    The other Sample area is the opposite side of the room which is the family room and that is next to the fireplace

    So very simple question and a vote would be awesome with just a light or dark as far as which paint looks the best to minimize the orange of the ceiling

  • 2 months ago

    Here you go

  • 2 months ago

    Kitchen

  • 2 months ago

    I’m looking at your last picture. The shiitake isn’t helping the ceiling at all. It’s pulling a pinkish undertone out of the ceiling. The other two whites would do.

  • 2 months ago

    So the trim that you see to the door on the right is actually pure white and the wall directly above it is drift of mist. I’m colorblind and that’s why I’m having so much problem… Do you think drift of miss looks good… Does it match?

  • PRO
    2 months ago

    Pure white. Paint cabinets same color. Use accessories to incorporate your ceiling but using woods that are not orangeish. No on drift of mist. Keep to a clear white.

  • 2 months ago

    If you want to tone down the orange in your ceiling a warm cream like SW Casa Blanca would help and lighten up the wall. You would have to compare your white cabinet color with it to make sure those colors work together though.

  • 2 months ago

    The whites don’t look great next to the ceiling. What color is the moulding on the cabinet? It looks like a soft taupe. That actually complements the wood better.

    The ceiling is a wonderful, unique feature so painting over it seems like you’re taking the character out of your house. Can you do a longer shot of the whole are instead of just the ceiling and adjacent wall? It will be easier to give suggestions if we know what the room looks like.

  • PRO
    2 months ago

    NONE of the above. They are muddy and awful with the ceiling.

  • PRO
    2 months ago
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    "just a light or dark ( please ) as far as which paint looks the best to minimize the orange of the ceiling"?!

    The ceiling is what the ceiling is! You don't remove orange, you complement orange.

    Neither of your wall colors; your Shitake/Drift of mist do a thing for the ceiling, and the ceiling does nothing FOR those colors."

    How many ways can we say "you are jamming a square peg into a round hole". If you like the FIT and the struggle, do one or the other and move ON. !

    Failing that? Paint the darn ceiling. You can not have your cake and EAT the cake and end in happy land.. Or you WILL end in happy land, and you simply want permission from folks telling you it rather doesn't all work really well. Add that you will get no sense of ANY color when you do these small samples directly next to one another. It's like sampling four fragrances on the same wrist.

  • 2 months ago

    Thank you, Jan and I know I’m way overthinking it but if you could suggest maybe two or three colors to consider, I would greatly appreciate it and I’ll go up and buy some samples and pay them on the wall… Not necessarily trying to jam a square pegging around hole just trying to do the right thing and looking for some guidance

  • 2 months ago

    Not a pro, but this is how I would handle it. Since the cabinets were already painted pure white, paint your walls pure white in a flat finish and the trim in pure white in a semi gloss finish.

    Remember, no one is going to be looking at pictures on the phone or computer when they enter your kitchen. Less is more to the eye. Keep it simple.

    If I am wrong, @Jan will correct me😂

    Listen to her, she is a Pro

  • PRO
    2 months ago
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    First off, your ceiling is not orange--it's a beautiful wood. The problem is the flooring--too gray and doesn't work with the ceiling. So keep what you like (ceiling) and change the floors. Either site finished hardwood the same color as the ceiling, engineered wood same color as ceiling, or a dark tile to contrast with the ceiling. And then paint the walls the same color as the cabinets.


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  • 2 months ago

    Just lurking here, but I googled wall paint colors that tone down an orange wood stained ceiling. Several suggestions there.

  • PRO
    2 months ago

    Being color blind is a real hindrance here. You need a designer who respects the MCM nature of the home and doesn't try to erase it into some bland ugly flip. NONE of your choices work with the floors or ceilings.

  • 2 months ago

    To be fair, we all like doing this stuff and many have an aptitude for it. I don't think we need to attack or finger wag at the OP because she is struggling with her very bossy ceiling.
    You don't have to be fake or lie, just be kind!

  • PRO
    2 months ago

    Colorblindness explains a LOT. With a warm red/yellow based wood, the best whites are always red/yellow based. Snowbound is one such option. But, you can go with even warmer, as it will actually look much whiter in person that SW's poor rendering. That blue gray island doesn't work, and neither does the stone.


  • PRO
    2 months ago
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    With this I am out.

    I'd mention .....this is what happens with multiple threads. You get lost, and you lose alllll the earlier commentary that would have been or is relevant.



    Change the cabinet white, change the back splash.

    The white Pure SW is too white.

    Alabaster?

    I would change the tile too.

    Paint walls and trim, and cabinetry The softer white.

    I think that is where the trouble begins and ends. Forget shitake, and drift of anything





    If not that? Then go to SW Pure White on the walls in matte, satin on the trim, and keep all else.....and don't stare at the ceiling.

    Neither Drift...or Shitake is in this equation, either.

    Bring your eye, and your attention level DOWN to human height. The hi/low of cabinetry, the micro over the range, are not the best of all possible features - the lower within the room your focus? The better.

    Get your hardware, get adequate lighting _ including under cabinet and over island.

  • PRO
    2 months ago

    There's a misconception that you can "tone down" an unwanted color with another color on the walls. The only way to make a color less prominent is by using a color that's MORE saturated on another surface. So use orange accents elsewhere in the room, and the orange in the ceiling will not be as evident. But I'm sure you don't want to do that if you don't like orange.

    Toning down wood requires you to treat it with a color opposite on the color wheel, in this case blue. A stain with blue in it will neutralize it, but it's necessary for that color to combine with the color that's already there. Using a complementary color, meaning one opposite on the color wheel, elsewhere in the space will do the opposite, that is, it will intensify the unwanted color.

    Just get some paints and try this at home: mix any two colors opposite on the color wheel (red and green, blue and orange, and yellow and violet) and you will get a version of brown, which is a neutral. On the other hand placing two complementary colors side by side will intensify each one. Artists know this.

    Van Gogh's Use of Simultaneous Contrast

    Simultaneous contrast is most evident when complementary colors are placed side by side. Think of Van Gogh's use of bright blues and yellow-oranges in the painting "Cafe Terrace on the Place du Forum, Arles" (1888)or the reds and green in "Night Cafe in Arles" (1888), both shown below.

    In a letter to his brother Theo, van Gogh described the cafe that he depicted in "Night Cafe in Arles" as “blood red and dull yellow with a green billiard table in the center, four lemon yellow lamps with an orange and green glow. Everywhere there is a clash and contrast of the most disparate reds and greens.” This contrast also reflects the "terrible passions of humanity" the artist observed at the cafe.

    Van Gogh uses a simultaneous contrast of complementary colors to convey strong emotions. The colors clash against one another, creating a feeling of uncomfortable intensity.

    Blues and orange/yellows intensify each other:

    Reds and greens do as well:


    So your options on the ceiling are either paint it white, or treat it with a blu-ish stain, to remove the orange.

    Personally, I like it, and would change the floor instead.

  • 2 months ago

    Incredibly informative and thank you… If you had to pick a color or two, what would you choose? What direction would you go for the walls?

  • PRO
    2 months ago

    The same white as the cabinets, on the walls and trim. Easy peasy.

  • 2 months ago

    I know this won’t show up in pictures, but it looks absolutely beautiful in person… I ended up having neighbors coming in in the hall at the same way I got nine samples on the walls. This is the one that every single person said that’s it. It’s beautiful just doesn’t show up well in pictures.

    This is when it was still drying, and it is a matte finish for Emerald, but it is Sherwin-Williams accolade

  • PRO
    2 months ago

    Then go with it.

  • 2 months ago

    Well it sounds like you found a color you’re happy with.
    It’s your kitchen, paint it the color you like. We are not in your home to see the colors under your lighting. Enjoy your kitchen

  • 2 months ago

    Whoa! My name has @Diana face

  • 2 months ago

    Now it’s gone😂

  • 2 months ago

    Thank you all… It was literally a color recommended by ChatGPT I decided on a whim to just try it painted it and I went wow that was really good. My mother-in-law walked in and went in the last 15 years in the 10 different colors you had that most beautiful color there really well… My wife didn’t walk in about 30 minutes later and looked at. It said it was the same thing.

    Then we had two different neighbors come in I said what’s your favorite pink color? I literally had three or four of them up on the wall without hesitation it was literally unanimous. I’m actually very surprised to help him so thank you all so much.

  • 2 months ago
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    I would try SW Shoji White.






    I forgot to say, I would probably do the cabinets and trim in the Shoji White as well, but maybe 25-50% lighter?

    Here is what ChatGPT came up with for shoji whate walls and cabinets 25% lighter. But as you can see, the colors are off on these AI renderings.


    I don’t think you posted a photo of your actual flooring. What is it? Wood? LVP? What is the brand, wood species, and stain or color name?

  • 2 months ago

    Sometimes Houzz is just so ridiculous. About 50 comments in we find out that: 1. The OP, who has many opinions about the tones of wood and paint, is color blind. 2. There is a two story brick fireplace with it's own tones and colors that this all must be cohesive with, and 3. They just decided to go with Chat GPT!

  • PRO
    2 months ago

    You're colorblind????!!!! Why do you think the ceiling looks orange? As I stated in my original post, it looks like a beautiful wood tone to me. And then why would YOU be the one that is selecting any color???? Yeesh, is this a joke or what??

  • last month

    I missed seeing your last comment before mine suggesting Shoji White. Here is a comparison just for fun. They are a similar hue but Accolade is darker.


    Glad you found the perfect paint color and that several people who are not color blind saw it in person and gave the thumbs up. And most importantly it sounds like your wife loves it as well. Enjoy your new kitchen!

  • last month

    Did OP mean colorblind in the literal or figurative sense?

  • PRO
    last month

    ^^

    There is no "figurative" . You are or you aren't?: )

    If the op means " Not good at color"....that's a literal. Here.....................pretty obviously : )

  • last month

    There is no "figurative" . You are or you aren't?: )

    If the op means " Not good at color"....that's a literal. Here.....................pretty obviously : )



    {{ eyeroll }}

  • last month

    FWIW, there are different types of colorblindness.

  • PRO
    last month

    Yes, there are, but if you have any sort of color blindness, you will not be able to accurately select a color or color combination.

  • last month

    I’m glad you found a color that other people agree is “it”. Paint everything that color and post a final photo for those of us who are invested in your solution.
    Good thing you have people to ask who can stand in the room and assess the paint samples.

  • last month

    Here you go

  • last month

    It was a video, but I don’t think the video will play here so you’re individual pictures

  • last month

    We may end up removing the microwave and putting a hooded vent. And before anyone ask about the raised counter, we are all very tall so for us it works substantially better. We also entertain quite a bit so pee on either side of the peninsula and having someone at a barstool mine eye feels more comfortable to us in our particular situation… So I know people like to comment, but there’s no need to comment on that :)

  • PRO
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    Wish you''d stop posting screen shots ( ? ) we can't see well on a computer: ) and there are no video options here, unless you would post a link to a You Tube video.

    Was there a question in the rest? or you are showing the paint color?

  • PRO
    last month

    The whole kitchen still looks like it belongs in a different house. Because it does.

  • last month

    Geyser… Thanks for the incredibly valuable feedback… I could see you’re a winner. Jan, you’ve kind of been rude from the start. Let me be honest guys, I was just looking for some help in some sort of direction with paint color. That’s where this started and that’s all I was looking for. The amount of rude comments… Especially without any direction… Like geyser. Is absolutely incredible. Be better… Don’t treat people like that… If you’re a narcissist… Awesome! Own it start the conversation with… I’m a narcissist and we’re all on the same page. But sometimes people just need a little help in a little direction and it does not have to be overly complicated and that’s all I was looking for. It’s a simple as that so when anybody comes on here from this point, Ford just be nice… It’s not hard to be nice.

  • last month

    And just to help provide a little bit of direction because some of you may have a hard time understanding. Maybe something from the start like this… You’re battling several different elements in your kitchen. And if you’re just looking for a specific paint help and what might tie some things together a little better until you’re further down the road. The color family you may want to stay in is X. If it was me, I may try the following type of samples and see how it looks in your individual room. Just because you have a pro next to your name does not mean that you’re smarter than anyone else… And for the record it doesn’t necessarily mean that your style is better than anyone else. And for the record, I ended up running into a Designer two nights ago at a social event and a comment that was made to me when I stated that I posted on House was… Lol, those people. Followed up with, let me guess they were very rude weren’t they? Just please be better… Be nice. Sorry for the rant for everybody else. It was nice in the chain above, but I was just looking for some help not rude comments.

  • last month

    I think its you that has the hard time understanding. You were asked to keep the same room, in the same post all the way through. Instead, you chose to disregard and you have 5 separate posts about this kitchen, making it impossible, for others to know what has been said, and what has been suggested, and what your ideas of it all were about.

  • last month
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    Thanks for posting the final results as RedRyder asked for above. I am so happy for you!

    May I make a few suggestions for down the road to help harmonize the rich warm wood ceiling with the more muted colors on everything else below? I hope you do not take this as rude or criticism. I just think it needs some final touches.

    I would add more wood in the same tones as the ceiling throughout the open space. You could also add copper and soft rust colors and muted blues from the Fantasy Brown countertops in fabrics like drapes and pillows. Also add some art with similar colors.

    Not a great mockup, but hopefully give you some ideas.


    Before


  • last month

    Rebunky…. Love the suggestions and exactly what I was looking for…. Great ideas!

  • last month

    Btw… love the different ideas and feedback to the but just appreciate the criticism, negative comments in totality, especially the comments without direction