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help with frame molding size and paint sheen

I am redoing my dining room. The carpet is getting ripped out and being replaced with hardwood. Please excuse the trim on the floor. Thats for another project.


I am planning on have picture frame molding installed in my dining room. I need help on which size I should go with. I included some photos of what my room looks like.


My installer showed me 2 sizes. I included how big they are on one of the walls. We've discussed layout. I'm wondering if the smaller size will look too dinky on the larger walls and if I did the bigger size, it would look too big on the wall with the windows.


I included some inspiration photos of what the smaller trim may look like and what the larger one could look like. Which size would be better for this space? I want to keep it simple with the layout and have 3 boxes on the larger wall and 1 big box on the adjacent wall and have matching lengths below the chair rail.


The chair rail and crown molding is staying and after the frame molding is installed, I plan to paint the whole room either Alabaster or Shoji White.


How should I paint the walls... Have the baseboards, frame molding, chair rail, and crown molding all in a satin finish and have the actual walls be in eggshell? Or should I have the whole room be in satin? WHat about the ceiling? 25% lighter ceiling color in which ever color I decide to go with?


Let me know!







Comments (23)

  • last month
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    I would use the smaller one if you must do this, but, I much prefer the room, without it, and I would like to see that chair raill removed too. Of course, its your house and up to your preference, not mine. :-) Satin is good for the trim, and eggshell on the walls. Some like Satin trim and matte on the wall. I dont like matte paint, and much prefer eggshell. I also use semi gloss on my trim, because thats my personal choice. I do love your chandelier. Its gorgeous.

    kristin van zelst thanked cat_ky
  • last month

    The narrow trim would look more in scale with the room.

    kristin van zelst thanked apple_pie_order
  • last month

    I'm not opposed to semi-gloss for the trim either. I'm looking for help with what paint finishes should go where and which ones are typically used. So would semigloss for the trim and eggshell for the walls be best?

  • last month

    What is your hardwood choice? Just curious. I think I would skip doing the frame moulding & paint everything a nice color & let your new floors, furniture, artwork, , etc be the focus. Nice room. The sheen of paint is personal, I like matte on walls , eggshell on trim but YMMV.

    kristin van zelst thanked K Laurence
  • last month
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    the slimmer, for sure.

    Semi gloss or even satin will be too much glare.

    Everything Egg shell or matte/flat for a lush look.

    SW Alabaster GREAT! soft for interior with little natural light and diffused artificial light.

    it always looks darker than you think.


    kristin van zelst thanked Lyn Nielson
  • last month

    Plan out your furniture layout, your art on the walls, drapes on the windows, then decide if you want the molding. How much of the molding would actually be seen. Are your ceilings tall enough to carry this off? Or would picking a Farrow & Ball paint color, color drenching the room be enough. Lots to think about.

    kristin van zelst thanked njmomma
  • PRO
    last month

    I rarely would do this type trim in only one place in a home I aslo advise you think about hanging art even a mirror if you install this type trim personally I would do paint and even remove the chair rail

  • last month

    I am definitely going to go with the slimmer trim. I do plan to color drench the room, including the windows either in alabaster or shoji white. Asking for help with the sheen of everything.


    I had chatgpt do a trim layout of what I was thinking of doing. Keep in mind chatgpt decided to change my buffet color and wall color. The table, mirror, buffet and artwork shown is everything I have for the room and where everything will go. I had chatgpt add in sconces.


    We have almost 10 foot ceiling height in this room.


    I also had chatgpt just put the trim below the chair rail and nothing above it. Sizing of the trim boxes is undecided in this particular layout.


    What are your thoughts?




  • last month

    The first picture with all the furniture in it looks beautiful.

    kristin van zelst thanked njmomma
  • last month

    I have a very active household, so for me, I would do eggshell finish on walls, semi gloss on trim. If you want Lush, Listen to a Professional on what sheen you need.

  • last month

    I do have an active household, but the kids know not to go in the dining room. I definitely want lush.

  • last month

    We did something similar in our foyer. We used aura matte for walls and all of the picture frame type molding, in Sea Pearl. Baseboards and door frames are white dove (I think) BM Advance satin. Love it. The advance tends to be pretty shiny at each level.

    So, I'm clearly not an expert, but if I were you I would do the same...matte for walls (which includes the added moldings), and then one or at most two steps up in sheen for the base, crown, and window casings, all in same color. Eggshell for walls would work too. Maybe try to keep it a little cohesive with the sheen on trim and walls in adjacent spaces.

    kristin van zelst thanked krdpm
  • PRO
    last month

    I definitely want "lush"

    It's pretty clear we're not going to stop you. The skinnier trim, please for "picture framing" boxes.

    Finishes?

    Picture framing, AND the walls in matte finish, and limit the SATIN finish to crown, door casing, window casing. and chair rail.

    Don't worry, you won't lose "lush" : )

    The look you are after, a Parisian feel in white, requires the type of paint job that would use a brush, not a roller. The finest paint, sanding between multiple coats.

    If you up the sheens to a combination of eggshell and semi gloss in the manner I just described? You had BETTER be paying out the wazoo for a painter.

    A ceiling in good matte paint, at half the value of walls.

    Nothing less in quality here, than Ben Moore Advance

  • last month

    I feel so confused. I love this look but I was also playing around with these other ideas as well.


    My husband is against wallpaper. He remembers how bad the walls get torn up with removal. Also, thinks if I went dark, I'd be sick of looking at a dark hole after a while.


    I also was thinking about just doing the framing below the chair rail.


    Our house is a traditional colonial.


    I just wanted to jazz up the dining room. There's still crown molding in the adjacent rooms as well.


    Chatgpt made the boxes look more square rather then rectangular in these other visual mock ups.



  • PRO
    last month
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    The dining room is one of OTHER rooms. Show the other spaces. A dining room is table, chairs, a beautiful paint color., art. a beautiful chandelier! A rug! a sideboard if space allows! A table beautifully set, and all the elements relate!

    Wallpaper is NOT a nightmare to remove, when walls are properly prepped! I am so beyond tired of hearing that false statement!

    It's one thing to fall in love with an inspo pic, but you need to consider it as it relates to all else in your home.

    It's never just ONE thing......and to some degree? Rooms should talk to one another: )

    Show the rest?











    kristin van zelst thanked JAN MOYER
  • last month

    Ok, I had AI remove everything, including the chair rail.

    Which looks better?



  • PRO
    last month
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    The second one looks better, but falls far short of "Luxe". ......

    Some upholstered chairs, larger scale art,,,,, turn a larger mirror to vertical hang. , longer side board?

    Some curtain panels....?

    I'll assume you were just asking on trim.vs no trim?

    kristin van zelst thanked JAN MOYER
  • last month

    I like the top one better. I really dislike the mouldings on the second one. I also agree, with Jan, if wallpaper is put on properly and the walls prepped before its hung, it comes off pretty nicely.

    kristin van zelst thanked cat_ky
  • last month
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    Your dining room has two lovely larger windows. Keep the warm wood going and do wainscoting in the same stain as the windows.




  • last month

    For color drenching this room would it go as followed


    Baseboards, crown, windows in satin


    Walls, molding, and chair rail in matte


    Ceiling in flat


    Or would chair rail be in satin as well?

  • PRO
    last month

    ^^ Color drenched?


    Satin on.......

    Crown molding, Window casing, base boards. chair rail, AND any trim below a chair wall . Matte on all wall above chair rail to include picture molding..

    Ceiling matte or flat.

  • 28 days ago

    Here is the finished room. They start the flooring tomorrow. Ill post photos once everything is done.


    Im very pleased with how it turned out. Super elegant, just very white. Im hoping the new floors, furniture and decor will warm it up a bit.