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Wolf IR30450/S/T - coil sizes, cooking & baking performance

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Hi..considering the Wolf IR30450/S/T as I have lung issues so am looking for more healthy alternatives to gas ranges.


Would anyone have any insight on the following?


- Coil size for the Range Top HOBs - we've gotten conflicting info from Wolf on this, and have been told everything from "they're octagonal shape and are roughly as large as the marked areas on the cooktop" to "Wolf doesn't publish coil sizes" (which, if true, simply means I won't buy a Wolf - as I'm not spending nearly $10K without this info).


- Oven performance - I bake a lot of Artisan breads (in Clay Bakers) and Pizzas. Breads are at 450 and pizzas at 550. I'm intrigued by Wolf's convection technology but am I just getting sucked in by Marketing, or is it "really" that much better than "true" convection systems from Bosch and others? (ie: will the Wolf Oven perform "that much" better than something from say, Bosch?)


- Touch controls v Knobs - realize this one's been beaten to death. I'd probably go with knobs on the "Professional" version just to be safe..but the knobs cause the oven height to be WAY lower to the ground than with touch controls. Like 5-7 inches lower. And as an older adult with arthritic issues, bending down even further to pull heavy pizza stones and bakers out of the oven is already a consideration..and I'm sure not getting any younger!


- Overall PERFORMANCE of range top and oven - I "get" the build quality and serviceability advantages of Wolf, but am wonder if the performance of the unit is "that much better" than Bosch, F&P or other brands to justify the huge price premium. Cuz $10K for an induction range/electric convection oven is hard to justify unless the end result of cooking on it as a fairly accomplished baker and cook is indeed notably "better" than other options.


Appreciate any and all insights..

Comments (18)

  • last month

    This is what it says on their own website: Four induction zones

    • 1 - 6" 1,400 W Zone with 2,200 W Boost
    • 2 - 8" 2,100 W Zones with 3,700 W Boost
    • 1 - 10" 2,600 W Zone with 3,700 W Boost
  • last month

    Appreciate the reply, but those are not COIL sizes.


    I'm interested in learning what the coil sizes under the marketed "pan/zone areas" are underneath the glass.


    Common issue with induction. Companies market X inch zone sizes and underneath the X inch zone area is a MUCH smaller COIL size. LG, for example, markets an 11'' area that has a roughly 6.5'' (IIRC) actual coil size.


    So when you use the pan, only the middle ~6.5'' (in that example) gets the heat.


    People say they try to cook with an 11'' (this example) pan and the heat is concentrated in the 6.5'' area which gets torched, with the outer areas not cooking / staying raw.


    Pretty big deal with induction AFAIK.

  • last month

    Here is the parts manual for the range, Hopefully this link will be the top assemble and the coils are part 1-4. If you google the part numbers you may get a dimension.. i have had wolf induction cooktop for over 10 years and the marked hobs are true to the area that will heat a pan.


    Range Parts Manual

  • last month

    Great - thanks!


    What do you use for an oven / ovens? I was pretty sold on the Wolf 30'' induction range but stumbled across all the posts about the porcelain interior flaking and that's sadly gonna mean we don't buy the range after all. So now, I'm looking at Wolf 30'' induction cooktop with another brand's wall ovens - which is a whole different rabbit hole as it's going to trigger at least a partial kitchen remodel and countertop replacement (UGH!)


    I'm astounded that Wolf has STILL not fixed the porcelain chipping problem even after multiple class action lawsuits on it. Crazy! But as we have no desire to constantly have to wonder if there are sharp porcelain chips in the food we cook in the oven are going to have to pass on the Range - just as were about to buy it..so frustrating as we're now back to square one.

  • last month

    I have 3 miele ovens - 30” convection/Combi Steam/Speed. Love them all! I had some issues with my initial CSO but that’s a long story. MIele worked with me on an acceptable resolutioni. Highly recommend them.

  • last month

    Ah..I'm looking very closely at the Mieles. Just don't currently have a place to put wall ovens and kitchen remodel would be $$$s.


    But if we do, will probably be my #1 choice.


    I just worry about Serviceability. There's ONE company in my state who services Miele. Next closest service is 500+ miles away. And I hear parts are often hard to come by / long delays. Any issues with that?

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    Getting parts have not been an issue. Usually a weekish. Since I got my replacement CSO 2 years ago - I have not had any repairs. I suggest calling the repair service that Miele authorizes and ask if they are able to do the proprietary diagnostics that Miele techs can do. ALso ask how they are trained. Do they attend traiing with the Miele Techs? I put a Miele DW in a second home in Tennessee and had similar concerns so those were the questions I asked.

  • last month

    Good suggestion. They do tell me they are the only "factory certified" Miele company in our State.

  • last month

    Miele makes their ranges in their new US plant. Parts should be available. Two oven versions are offered, one with steam.

  • last month

    Our neighbors also have Wolf (albeit, wall ovens vs range) with the blue porcelain liner and have never seen chipping.


    Turns out they don't use their oven above 375 degrees and have never used self-clean.


    I cook Artisan Pizzas at 550 every single week. Based on what I've read, sounds like there would be a pretty high likelihood we'd experience chipping. So, the 30450/S/T is now out and I'm looking for ANYTHING that has decently sized coils on top and a very good convection oven. So far am coming up empty..can find ranges with either a good induction cooktop (Wolf)/bad oven (ditto) or good oven and cooktop with unknown coil sizes and bad layout (Miele). If I could just figure out coil sizes on the Miele range with steam oven, that might be an option..

  • last month

    Here is the part diagram for a Miele induction range showing the hob sizes. The large rectagular hob is about 22 inches and the round is 9.8 inches. You can convert the mm to inches. What are you layout concerns?


    https://www4.miele.de/msd/MSD#/device/15239/etd/2412519401201/


  • last month

    "I cook Artisan Pizzas at 550 every single week. Based on what I've read, sounds like there would be a pretty high likelihood we'd experience chipping."


    I bake and roast at 450 regularly, occasionally up to 500. No chipping.

  • last month

    What Miele range is that for? All the ones I see on their website today have circular delinations for pan placement.


    For example..https://www.mieleusa.com/product/12298850/30-range-hr-1422-3-i


    And to porkchop..good to hear it's working for you. Unfortunately, many others have had the chipping/flaking problem and I can't buy a range for ~$10K that I constantly have to wonder if there is chipped porcelain in our food. Way too risky. I've even read of multiple people that say they cannot even USE their oven due to that. No way I'm spending $10K on a range with an oven that I have to say "can't even use it". One person I read replaced their liner FOUR times, and STILL has the problem after the 4th swap. It's a very legit issue.

  • last month

    1632-3 - Miele shows 4 induction ranges on their website (US)

  • last month

    I'm looking for 30''. Only the 36'' has squares.

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    you can find the hob parts with diameters for the 30” ranges as well. Miele/Wolf/Thermador produce some of the best Induction units. I would not have concerns about coil sizes.


    I have a GE Profile 30” induction cooktop in a second home and it has no issues with pan heating.