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9 months ago
last modified: 9 months ago

We ordered our shower door with diamond fushion coating. then the doors were ”backwards” and had to be reversed ( the handle to open the door was on the inside) now I have spots on the inside surface of the glass! could it be that the glass is coated on only one side? (I am not asking the contractor because it turns out he was not very forthcoming about important information…and gave us totally wrong info sometimes and for once in my life (never again);I was trusting his high ratings. installer told me to use only non-ammonia cleaners and Sprayway glass cleaner (no ammonia) is NOT removing the spots……so are shower doors coated on BOTH sides?

Comments (30)

  • 9 months ago

    Distilled white vinegar full strength might work.

    bathroom thanked tracefloyd
  • PRO
    9 months ago

    Unfortunately, no, they are usually coated on the inside only, unless you specify otherwise.

    "For most shower doors, the protective coating (spot-resistant, hydrophobic, “easy-clean,” etc.) is applied to the inside surface, the side that actually gets hit with water, soap, and minerals. That’s where spots and buildup are the worst, so that’s where the coating earns its keep.

    • Factory-applied coatings (like ShowerGuard, EnduroShield, etc.) are almost always one side only unless the manufacturer explicitly says otherwise."
    bathroom thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • 9 months ago

    " could it be that the glass is coated on only one side? "


    100% it definitely is only ONE side. As Diana Bier Interiors, LLC pointed out above.

    bathroom thanked millworkman
  • 9 months ago

    OMG....I really made a mistake hiring this contractor!

  • 9 months ago

    Sounds like it. There are aftermarket protectants that you can apply bit they will need to be reapplied periodically. However now you would sealing in the deposuts already there. I would clean the glass as best as possible (people here can recommend what works good for them for mineral deposits) and then seal the glass.

    bathroom thanked millworkman
  • 9 months ago

    What does your contract specify? It looks to me like the contractor owes you new glass, properly installed. At his cost, not yours.

    bathroom thanked amystoller
  • 9 months ago
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    My contract just says size, orientation, and glass coating (Diamond Fushion).....he did the orientation wrong (and came out and reversed/corrected)...and ONLY then did I start using the shower and found that the marks from the water could not be removed with non-ammonia glass cleaner!! None of the coating companies would tell me if they only coated one side. No thing in the contract says ONLY interior of glass will be coated....Maybe that is just assumed?

  • 9 months ago

    The orientation is still wrong, because the coating is now on the wrong side.


    The whole point of contracts is that nothing is assumed. Everything is specified.

    bathroom thanked amystoller
  • 9 months ago
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    the problem is that the orientation that I ordered was not honored. They made the doors with the handle facing inward instead of where you can use it to enter the shower and coated the glass to suit the incorrect set up ....I will sort it out.

  • 9 months ago

    Can the doors be returned to their previous orientation and the handles reversed instead?

    bathroom thanked elunia
  • 9 months ago

    MILLWORKMAN: GOOD CATCH!! Strangely enough, the glass panes are oriented correctly AFTER the panes were reversed per my initial quoted. both doors slide so even if they were overlapping in the wrong direction , they could be slid into the correct overlap direction.

  • PRO
    last month

    If the doors were reversed, the untreated side may now be facing the water, which would explain why mineral spots are forming and the regular glass cleaner isn’t removing them. I would try a handheld steam cleaner on a small section of the glass, then immediately use a squeegee and microfiber cloth to remove the loosened deposits. It’s a practical way to clean shower glass without adding another ammonia-based product. I made a video showing the correct way to use a steam cleaner on glass and other household surfaces. The steam cleaner itself is linked in the video description:


    https://youtu.be/vlquermvBXY

    bathroom thanked Prime Estate Studio
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    " I absolutely HATE the doors anyway...they wobble. "

    Heavier glass will wobble more unless the door is a higher quality with higher quality sliding hardware.

    " I JUST READ that if I went to HOME DEPOT I would have gotten at least 5/16" glass. "

    Everyone has different quality products with different glass, but 5/16" is not a glass thickness that is available as that thickness 99% of the time is laminated glass (1/8" - interlayer - 1/8" = 5/16"). i am in the glass and glazing business.

    bathroom thanked millworkman
  • last month

    just found out that at least one company coats glass shower doors both sides with Diamond Fusion. But I do not know why they are SO HARD to keep clean!! Terribly disappointed.


  • last month

    I recently had a frameless L-shaped shower enclosure (3/8" thickness) installed.


    Diamond Fusion was applied to the interior of the glass at installation. The glazier gave me a bottle of "Diamond Blue" cleaner (available from Amazon) to spray on and wipe off (with a microfiber cloth) weekly. We squeegee the glass after each use. Also, I have a whole house water softener system.

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    So sorry you are dealing with this, that contractor definitely dropped the ball. Just for context, Diamond Fusion is almost always applied to one side only unless you explicitly pay for both. When they flipped the panel to fix the handle, they basically put your coated side on the outside. To salvage the glass now, your best bet is to clear off those mineral deposits with white vinegar, get a good squeegee to use after every shower, and apply an aftermarket glass sealant like Rain-X or a dedicated shower protectant. By the way, I also recommend checking out this website, northspin-casino-ca It has a lot of interesting and useful information for general personal development.

    bathroom thanked My home
  • last month

    MY HOME: the company who coated the glass told me they always coat both sides....they aren't the same company I bought the doors from. The company who coated the doors told me to use nothing abrasive or containing ammonia. Suggested Sprayway glass cleaner (which I already use)....told me shampoo and soap "haze" the glass so I have to use a squeegee after each shower to remove residue. I had no idea the "coating" did not do more protecting than this! Almost not worth the money it cost to have the glass coated. the glass on the outside of the shower feels really smooth...the inside glass does not. Does not feel "coated" to me but I do not know how to prove them wrong.

  • last month

    coastal_vibe the water softener is key....we have hard water, no basement thus no room for a water softener


  • last month

    If the glass is not treated from the factory there in my mind is a good part of the issue. Diamond Fusion from my experience is hit and miss in its effectiveness and personally have never recommended it. The ONLY one I will ever recommend is Showerguard, it is made directly in the glass. Aftermarket products are an issue in many thing and protectants that you apply at home are all mediocre at best.

  • last month

    @bathroom,

    I have no basement -- my house is on a slab. The water softener system is installed on the outside of my house, near the shutoff valve for the whole house. I have to use potassium pellets ($$) instead of sodium because the same system is connected to the sprinklers in the front yard.

  • last month
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    This is why I have shower curtains and a vinyl shower curtain liner. No way would I squeegee after every shower, lol!

    My son’s showers only have an opening. No door or curtain.

    Can you get the coating removed? Then you would only have to spray with vinegar every once in awhile. That removes the soap scum and hard water spots.

  • last month

    Sherry8aNorthAL I had NO coating on the last shower door glass....and the hard water (we have really hard water!) destroyed the glass even though I religiously cleaned it...it is a no-win situation. AND I fully realize no one but me would squeegee after ever shower...and this is not the bathroom I use!!! Oh well.

  • last month

    millworkman: I was told Diamond Fusion had a lifetime guarantee (now I can ask against what?)....but I am now also told that the shower door contractor was concerned that my acyrlic shower from 1980 would not hold the weight of a semi-frameless door with glass thicker than 1/4" (at the time of purchase I was NOT told this , I was told 1/4" was standard for a 48" wide shower)....but anyway, the door wobbles...wouldn't the width of the bottom track have something to do with the wobbling? if there was more encapsulation wouldn't there be less wobbling? Just wondering.... I really have to be careful when cleaning, already the door actually came out of the track when I was cleaning the glass!!! and I am pretty careful. (now I am definitley MORE CAREFUL!!!)

  • last month

    amystoller : the contractor swears the coating is on both sides....I am supposed to squeegee after each use (I did not know that) and use sprayway (I do)....according to them they did everything correctly.....I do not like the water spots and I do not like the wobbling doors....it took forever to get them to reply and now that they did I guess I am stuck.....they make custom shower doors (I am not a shower door expert and did not know I needed to be to order doors from a custom shower door manufacturer) Salesperson did not warn me (of course he didn't ...it was a sale)

  • last month

    bathroom: "AND I fully realize no one but me would squeegee after ever shower ..."

    Wrong! :-) I squeegee or wipe down my my shower stall (in the master bath) and the tub/shower in the spare bath after every use, for the entire time I've thus far lived in this house, which is more than 20 years.

  • last month

    Dadoes, not me!

  • PRO
    last month

    Not me either!

  • last month

    If you really want glass doors, live with these. If they still do not work out, when you can, research, (you know what to look for now), and run everything on a post on here. Then buy.

    I messed up on tile for baths.

  • last month
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    Sherry8aNorthAL:you are 100% correct on the best path forward Thanks for words of support (so embarrassing that you cannot edit and correct spelling in the app!!!)