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1980s split level remodel-interior paint color advice!

6 months ago
last modified: 6 months ago

I'm buying a 1980s split level and gutting it. The floors are going to be a light oak LVP throughout. We're replacing the trim and doors and will be painting them white. And also painting all walls and ceilings white (someting a little darker however). Kitchen cabinets will also mostly be white though we may have an island that is wood but in a darker tone that is contrasting enough with the floors. Black matte hardware with simple lines throughout but brass hardware in the kitchen - also very simple, nothing large or obnoxious.

Which brings me to the paint colors. I built a home 6 years back that had a very similar look but went with more of a cool gray undertone throughout. This time I want more of a warm/brown undertone. I am at a loss for what paint colors to use. Ideally there would be one paint color for trim and doors, and another for walls and ceilings (to start the walls and ceilings will all get the same paint color due to budget - we will update over time.) Finally - kitchen cabinets - same as trim and doors? Or different? I'm not opposed to different but the fact that in the kitchen there would be 3 shades of paint visible between trim, walls and those cabinets is very tricky.

Proven color combos and photos appreciated! Photos are pre-reno 1980s glory! The only thing staying are the window and blinds.








Comments (15)

  • 6 months ago

    And here are photos of looks that I love.

  • 6 months ago
    last modified: 6 months ago

    I like your updated photos - should be quite a change! I am not great help re: paint colors (I don't know the names of many of the SW/BM paint colors.

    Maybe my comment will help attract some attention for you by bumping it back up on the list.

  • PRO
    6 months ago
    last modified: 6 months ago

    You are GUTTING a space and worrying on paint? Your proposed aesthetic doesn't demand three whites.

    Beyond that? Before anything is the floor plan for the new space, post GUTTING and at this point, the paint query is a buggy far out in front of a horse.

    Post the plan.............: ) and know that the "white" of the cabinetry in kitchen is best repeated in your trim.........

    Sheen change alone can be enough highlight and delineation of wall/trim,

  • PRO
    6 months ago

    IMO too early to choose wall color but 3 whites will open up big headaches down the road . I find it interesting that some one who always had grays now wants browns that to me is a complete flip so what is driving the change ? That kitchen is a 100% gut for sure but too early to choose wall color IMO. The looks you love are what has been done to death IMO and will maybe scream dated before you finish gutting.

  • PRO
    6 months ago

    "Done to death" ?! : )

    As if a decade and a half or more of gray wasn't long enough?

    The "brown" meaning warmer wood and whatever, more warmth in a space is just the pendulum swing.

    There are many ways to warmth. : )

  • PRO
    6 months ago

    You cannot select the paint color until you have a least a box of the LVT to place on the floor to see what that fake wood finish does to the room with the lighting. You can't pick a paint color prior to being in the space.


    Consider installing recessed downlights in the space. They would be appropriate for the style of your home.




  • 6 months ago

    You will want to pick the flooring, cabinets, countertop and backsplash before paint colors.


    Cabinets will come in a narrow selection of factory finishes that are much more durable than painted.


    The flooring will also come in a limited number of colors (buy a few extra boxes for replacement/repairs down the road).


    Countertops and backsplashes also come in a limited number of colors.


    If you nail these colors down, making sure they all work well together you can pick any color from them and have the color matched, lightened or darkened to be the perfect paint color for your walls and trim.


    If you choose paint color first it will be much harder to find matching or coordinating colors in the items that only come in a limited selection of colors.


    I also try to guide people to choose colors that work well with the colors they love before choosing the neutral background colors that will go into their home. You are starting with a blank slate. Most people love certain colors. They are often colors that they look good wearing. (We are vain - we like to look like a 10) Surround yourself with art and furnishings and pillows and accessories that will make you look beautiful when you are sitting in your living room or reclining on your bed. Colors that won't clash with your favorite outfits.


    I often share the example of my sister, my sister-in-law and me. We have very different coloring. I have dark hair end eyes, some red tones in my hair and skin - I am a cool winter.

    I look best in jewel tones and wear a lot of wine reds, purples and teals. My sister has olive toned skin and mid-toned brown hair. She looks great in fall colors. My sister-in-law has a light complexion with yellow undertones (the kind that tans easily instead of my burns immediately light skin tone with pink undertones like mine.) She has blond hair and blue eyes. She wears pastels and loves cornflower blue and peach and creams.


    below are examples of the colors we love and use in our homes.



    My main neutrals are taupe (between pink beige and violet gray). It works with all the purple tones I love.


    My sister's main neutral is greige (between green beige and green gray). It works with her fall color palette.


    My sister in laws main neutral is cream. It works with the soft pastel peaches and soft greens and both soft and stronger blues.


    Knowing what you love will help you choose the colors that will make the perfect backdrop for all the art and furnishings and beautiful objects in your home (including you).


    Color trends come and go, but if you pick out colors that work well with what you love it will be timeless. You won't have to pick out all new furniture, art and wall colors every few years because it will be beautiful no matter what the current trend is dictating everyone should love.


    PS. The cabinets in your inspiration pictures look like they are similar to Edgecomb Gray (aka Baby Fawn) 2 names, same color. It is a neutral that is actually more beige than gray, but gray was popular, so they gave it another name. Never go by the name of a paint color. They mean nothing.

    https://poshpennies.com/benjamin-moore-edgecomb-gray/




  • 6 months ago
    last modified: 6 months ago

    your inspiration photos are lovely! I would welcome my morning coffee in any of them. Agree to pick paint color last. I renovated a 1969 split level quite extensively as you are doing. When I got to the paint, I invested in a few hours of an interior designer's time to come to the space, see the light and help me select colors after the floor and cabinets were installed. Well worth the investment. If you go this route, make sure the person you are working with has references and examples of past work you can check, including color selection experience. In other words, don't pay someone who isn't a pro.

  • 6 months ago

    I’d consider upgrading your flooring away from LVP. Hardwood floors or engineered hardwood look and feel so much nicer and can be refinished.

  • 6 months ago

    Only use LVP if it's appropriate to the price point you'll end up at. Maybe there are some regional preferences that would override what I'm saying, but where I am (NE), LVP would only be used throughout in entry level homes. I think it's a great product for basements, but wouldn't put it on the first or second floor. Around here it's used a lot in condo flips.

  • 6 months ago

    One of the key drivers for me learning about interior color and undertones was the inability of designers to find an answer based on what I had and not just what is popular.


    I was painting a home with tile that had a strong pink undertone. It was 20 years ago during the time when builders beige was all the rage. (Yellow undertones). I had several designers tell me I had to remove the 1700 sf of perfectly good tile because it was the wrong neutral color. It took quite a search to find someone who could think beyond the most popular colors and recommend a neutral that worked with the non-popular, but too expensive to replace floor color.


    It is easy to find the right color with a bit of trial and error.

    If you test a few colors that you think are what you want and let us know what isn't working - this one looks good, but feels just a little bit too yellow, but this one looks too pink we can use the information colors and one is too yellow, one is too green and one is too purple we can find the one in the middle that works.


    I have a database with every BM or SW paint color and the LCH value - light, chroma and hue.

    I can find something that has the same hue and chroma but is lighter or darker, something that is more or less saturated but the same luminance and hue or something that is a bit warmer or cooler but the same intensity and luminance. Makes it easy to find the right color.

  • 6 months ago

    Thank you all - appreciate the opinions and I didn't realize how many I would receive! In 2019 I built a home and picked all the paint colors ahead of time, modifying a couple walls to darker shades during the time we lived in it. It turned out great, received a lot of compliments from professionals, and when I sold it went so fast it was never even listed. I'm proud of what I pieced togehter as a novice with no training.


    My desire to move towards browns is that I'm tired of grays (like many) and want a warmer space. I do realize there are many ways to do this. I look at trim, doors and cabinets as foundational elements - I don't want to change them often, if ever. And walls, I just want them to coordinate out of the gate. I'm a single mom doing a flip on a budget, hence the "all LVP" - would love hard/engineered woods but it's not in the budget and TBH, we're not careful enough for those! I'll be thrilled to do LVP throughout vs. having to tighten my budget with carpet in the basement great room.


    Totally understand that I am asking questions in a forum with experts who deal with champagne budgets. I'm more the beer route these days aiming for a champagne look - I did it once so why not go again?


    In closing, this probably wasn't clear - I am looking for some BM, SW warm-white color combos that go well together that I can put on my short list for further investigation and finalization. If anyone has some they love and would be kind enought to share, I'm all ears. Thanks!

  • 6 months ago

    Limit your choices to top sellers in each brand. SW shows their top 50 here: https://www.sherwin-williams.com/en-us/color/color-collections/top-50-colors?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20034111831&gbraid=0AAAAADmwGVavVOa7WDP4EeXzXLbCqArMv&gclid=CjwKCAiAnoXNBhAZEiwAnItcG8k8lYXPlVYkJ_DOtx3phSTynDQEMNLFF_7Bp30Baxd4orBnsaiKcxoC8YcQAvD_BwE (many are not white - can widdle that down)


    BM shows their top 5 whites here:

    https://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-us/paint-colors/most-popular


    1st is a bluer white and the last is gray, but the others are warm.



    Samplize has bundles of their best warm whites and warm off whites:

    https://samplize.com/pages/shop/bundles/?refinementList%5Bproduct_type%5D%5B0%5D=Kit


    And Kylie M interiors has a few lists of her favorite whites and off whites.


    https://www.kylieminteriors.ca/the-ultimate-guide-to-choosing-white-paint-colours/#search/q=warm%20whites


  • 6 months ago

    Thanks @Jennifer Hogan! I was on Kylie M's site last night before posting, I will give it another once-over.

  • 6 months ago

    sounds like a fun project! if it were me, I’d select flooring first since it will have such a big impact - think too about laminate wood in addition to LVP , its come a long way. Heres a busy facebook grouP where you search brands, names etc and see pics in real life https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1AbQ7ShdjP/


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