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I am in the middle of replacing a failed garage lintel. In the process as they needed to remove the exterior lights and the garage door so I am replacing both. The garage door is 16x7 and is a side entry under the gable end. I think I need a 24-28" light on each side of the garage. Any tips on style or sourcing them? In addition to the size I wanted it to be enclosed as bees tend to form hives in them in my wooded area. I also wanted dusk to dawn with a motion sensor to brighten when I come home. I work nights and the house is quite dark. I haven't been able to locate a light that combined all those features.


The house is a 1979 ranch. It is currently white with charcoal roof and black shutters. When the work is done the roof will be replaced with black and the house will likely be painted cream or sage green. My friend suggests yellow. I enjoy the homes in Colonial Williamsburg but this house is in central Florida. The front of the house has a circular drive, large porch, blue slate flooring, and white swings etc.

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    Can you show a photo of your home, please.

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    The new lintel is in and the block replaced. Today they were taking off the aluminum siding, strengthening the straps on the roof. Over the next few days they will place a wood backing to secure hardie board siding. The lower section will be stucco. I was considering these lights but I don't think they will last long in the Florida sun and it is open on the bottom so I will have to deal with bees making a nest in it from time to time.

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/pasentel-24-3-in-3-Light-Black-Motion-Sensing-Dusk-to-Dawn-Large-Outdoor-Wall-Lantern-Scone-Light-with-Clear-Glass-HWBD004-3-BK-GY/335960146#see-more-details


    The garage door will likely be a Raynor Buildmark raised ranch in white no windows. Keeping it simple as the garage does not face the street. No windows as it's one less thing to clean and it will likely hold up better in strong winds. It's hurricane rated to 140 mph. To dress it up I was considering magnetic straps and handles in a fleur de lis pattern. They can drill them but I'd prefer to avoid putting holes in the door.

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    Sorry it's not the best picture. Once the lintel project is complete the roof will be replaced with Atlas pinnicle pristine shingles in black or charcoal. The weather vane will be replaced with a praying angel, a golden arrow, or perhaps a cross. Once those projects are done the house will need to be painted. The house sits on 1.5 acres and has a white picket fence.

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    Here's a couple of options that are close to what you were looking at, but are sealed at the bottom, and seem like they might hold up well in your Florida sun.


    This one has a UV protectant coating on it and both a dusk to dawn light with motion sensor:

    17 Stories 23.5in. Oversize Black Motion Sensor Dusk To Dawn Outdoor Wall Lantern With Tempered Glass Shade | Wayfair




    This one is copper with a protective oil-sealed finish. It is a few inches shorter in length. It's just a dusk to dawn light, but when using LED lights they don't use much energy to run them all night. I like that this has easy front access when replacing light bulbs and cleaning.


    GAAZIE Solid Copper Dusk to Dawn Outdoor Wall Lantern, 20" Large Entry Oil Rubbed Bronze Porch Light with Clear Beveled Glass, Exterior Wall Lights Sconce for Garage, Front Door & Patio, E26 Base - Amazon.com



    You can also get an outdoor light that isn't dusk to dawn, but purchase dusk to dawn lightbulbs instead. That's what I use at home and they work well.




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    Woodccruise - I hadn't heard about the dark sky principle. Thank you for teaching me about it. It looks great and should be easy to clean. I had read a light should be 1/4-1/3 of the height of the garage door so the size is perfect. I was leaning on the higher end as it is on the gable end of the house. The previous lights were 18" and were lost visually due to the scale. My neighbors bedroom faces my garage so this is something to consider.


    Emily - Both options looks great. The 1st one appears to have everything I need. Would have liked it a bit bigger but it's a fantastic option. For safety I do want bright light when I come home as I live alone. Energy cost isn't as high a priority.


    Thank you both for helping to location some options.



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    Obviously Emily's suggestions do not follow Dark Sky Principles. They shine outwards instead of downwards where light is needed. Excessive brightness reduces safety; your eyes adjust to the bright light and can't see the surrounding, darker areas. And it certainly annoys the neighbors.

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    I don't normally weigh in on choosing style and theme for another's home. To me it's like taking breakfast balls on 3 holes and cheating at solitaire. This thread is an exception.. #1 Because I'm a proponent of Dark Sky Principles. #2 This response from OP demonstrates how invested people usually are when asking others to choose style and theme. " Woodccruise - I hadn't heard about the dark sky principle. Thank you for teaching me about it. It looks great and should be easy to clean. "

    If that isn't entertaining enough to deserve a good ROFLMO, what would be?

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    If you find a fixture you like, you can always install a motion sensor dusk to dawn smart bulb.

    https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Equivalent-Activated-Security-Aovpex/dp/B09NR6G1ZM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?

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    An alternative consideration to dusk-to-dawn bulbs are motion activated light bulbs. I wanted a solid brass fixture that didn't offer motion or any other detection, so I bought a motion bulb for it - it works great and doesn't light up the outside all night needlessly.

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    Definatly an option. If I find a fixture that is big enough and closed on the bottom that could work. I was also looking at fixtures that I could use a yellow bug light instead of an integrated LED light. .

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    "If I find a fixture that is big enough and closed on the bottom that could work."

    You want a light that shines downward.

    The Bradford light linked above uses a separate GU10 MR16 bulb. You'd want to use a 2700K or 3000K bulb.

    You could control the lights with a motion sensor (example) installed, for example, above the garage door.

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    I've continued to explore this option. I like the style and that the light is better for wildlife. I would still need the motion sensor ,to learn if the bulb is replaceable or if its integrated. I also need to figure out if it can be modified to close the bottom. I understand it seems petty but I have brain and neck disabilities due to an accident and bees are a problem. I've had two 50# hives removed. It will be difficult for me to keep them from building a nest in it I too enjoy seeing the stars at night but I need to travel to see them.

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    I'd go with large (24–28") enclosed carriage-style lanterns in matte black. They'll look proportional to a 16' garage door and help keep bees from nesting inside. If you can't find fixtures with both dusk-to-dawn and motion sensing, consider a dusk-to-dawn light with a separate motion sensor or smart bulb. I also think sage green with black accents would look beautiful with your slate porch and wooded setting.

  • 26 days ago

    Thank you.

    I ended up getting the 28" Bradford fixtures for the garage but they are not installed yet. I had a hard time finding fixtures that were going to be big enough. I purchased a smaller one for the second entrance to the garage on the back of the house. The stucco is up and we are waiting on the delivery of the Raynor Aspen AP138 raised ranch door. I upgraded to a heavier door that will be more durable. The vent in the gable is now larger and white.


    I am considering painting the house with Sherwin Williams Evergreen Fog for the body of the house and Alabaster for the trim. Another option is Accessible Beige for a classic safe choice but I think I'm tired of the whites and beige. As the house will have to be painted I'm moving on to the front porch. I'll need to address fixtures, door hardware, and the furniture.


    I apprecialte everyones input.




  • 26 days ago

    Post a photo when you get them installed. I’m not familiar with the Night Sky principle so I’d love to see the lit up at night.

  • 25 days ago

    If you plan on asking for advice on the front porch, keep it here in the same thread so people can follow.