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JWP: New Summer Needles

29 days ago

Nothing crazy but on 2 seperate JWP on new candles , fully hardened at ths point, fully flushed out.


I have a branch on each one .....not new buds for next year, but it does appear to be sending out new needles at the tip these new candles when it already has new needles down the entire length


Can someone advise these new needles is what I am observing. I thought JWP is single flush and any new growth....I should expect would just be the spring flush

Comments (11)

  • 29 days ago

    a1an, do you use any fertilizer?

  • 28 days ago
    last modified: 28 days ago

    Some pines can have a second flush if there's alot of rain and/or fertilizer. My loblolly pine has second flushes in wet summers, tho I'm not sure I've ever noticed that in "white" pines..

  • 28 days ago

    No fertz. Going back to OP. I was originally seeing 5 little nubs so I presumed it was just early budset for next year. Then as week progressed, it kept on emerging and emerging....so here I am think Single Pine Flush, what da, is this a second set of candles that is coming out.


    We're in our second heat wave and it has shown as face.....as it was not candles but just needles.. I have been giving it supplemental watering on both heat waves so maybe that triggered it . I did look at every other branch or the majority on all my JWP and while a good amount of branches do appear to show a semi developed bud for next year, nothing like these new needles being discussed.



  • 28 days ago
    last modified: 28 days ago

    Pictures say a thousand words. If you can provide some.

    Most lilkely, the stellar care you're giving the tree(s) has caused them to take advantage of the season and push out a few more needles.

    imo: I'd back off on watering and let them finish/harden off for the rest of the season.

    The roots will continue to grow long after top growth has slowed.

    Don't let them get too dry either. ;-)

  • 28 days ago
  • 28 days ago

    Yes, you've been just too nice to your tree and it didn't know what else to do with all that extra energy. Therefore new growth late in the season. ;-)


    PS: I generally don't click on external links, especially when Houzz has such a nice, easy way to post pictures internally.

  • 28 days ago

    I've had Japanese White Pine sprout a second time in my former garden. I may be mis-remembering but I think a lot of cones later initiated on these second growth shoots. And yes, for me they were shoots, not just needles.

  • 9 days ago

    I'm not going to calling it buds or needles as on one of the JWP discussed in this thread, at least 75% of this years growth, I'm seeing buds or something to that effect again....


    I was wrong in the OP, in that it was just new needles. However, without checking every branch but just a quick visual, I am see -new things- on the terminal tips this time of the year.


    Ha, I'm mainly checking 1 particular tree which had it's main leader tipped....nibbled off last year. No new candles this year and no signs of buds or the like on the tip so far. Wishful thinking....

  • 9 days ago
    last modified: 8 days ago

    All of my pines have been setting winter buds for weeks now.

    Did the one that got 'nibbled off' last year, have any new growth on it at all this season?

    Generally speaking, if a tree doesn't get any new growth at all, that's not good.

    My pines have all finished growing on top for the season now.

    There are differences in winter buds.

    The pictures below depict the ones I have here.

    Eastern white pine, P. Strobus, random branch tip closeup.


    Pinus Mugo 'Pumilio'.


    Looks like the P. mugo 'Tannenbaum' will be making some cones next season.


    Pinus banksiana, the venerable 'Jack Pine'.


    Pinus Resinosa: from a younger tree.

    Pinus Ponderosa 'Scopulorum'


    Enjoy! ;-)

  • 8 days ago

    No new growth this season. It still has it's needles from 2 years ago so just hoping it's pulling sun, synthesizing


    I really don't want to start a new leader.........I did check the tips of this tree and no new budsets showing on anything. My hope if that once I see budset on this tree, if there is buds, they will show on the tipped leader. Then again, I was hoping for buds last year which I never got.


    I do have a backup in mind already, which is get s a same cutivar replacement if I don't see buds. Granted gardening has taught us all a world of patiences, but this cultivar is so slow growing, I'd rather gain 2-3 years rather than trying to reshape a limb and establish a new leader.



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