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Old home - uneven floors

12 years ago
I have purchased a small bungalow from the 1940's. It is a solid, 850 sq. ft home with a full basement. The home was used as a rental for many years. I bought it for my elderly mother to move into and am making it wheelchair accessible for the future. I have gutted the upstairs and removed many walls - the basement will wait for later. I had made up my mind on hardwood or engineered hardwood for the main living space. I then thought that the heated tiles would go in the bathroom and front entryway. The flooring company in our little tiny town came to give me a quote. They came and measured and told me that because the floors were uneven in a few places that it would involve many hours of leveling etc. The quote was for $20,000. - This is something that I can't afford - the flooring I had chosen was medium quality - it seems the floors are the issue. I have been sanding the high spots and plan of leveling things to the best that I can. The floor company told me that I would have to do wall to wall carpet or vinyl. Any suggestions - any others that have experienced this have cheaper fixes. I'm thinking the sanding and leveling myself should help for the costs. I suppose vinyl flooring that looks like wood is an option but I would prefer the real deal. Thank in advance.

Comments (17)

  • 12 years ago
    This may be silly, but are there more high spaces or low spaces? I'm wondering if there is a product that can be used to bring up the low spots and not require you to do so much sanding?
    shecarves thanked User
  • 12 years ago
    What is the original wood floor made of? If it is some kind of plank or tongue and groove flooring, have you considered painting it? After much debate, we recently painted our heart pine floors a dark brown using an interior semigloss floor paint from Lowe's. After many weeks of waiting for the paint to lose its tackiness (we did three thin coats with several days between coats) we solved the problem with a water-based polyurethane top coat. Looks great. The floors were over 125 years old, and the condition of them was too poor to sand and refinish. We had to do some hole filling and patching, but it barely showed with the dark paint.
    shecarves thanked pafarmhouse
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Hardwood, nailed or glued needs a level subfloor. Even a click floor system will need a level base. What are the existing floors now? Is there wood under carpet? If so they may be able to be refinished. Look into vinyl sheet tile or plank vinyl. Your local store should be able to think outside the box and guide you with some reasonable suggestions. Get some product names they have, check out their samples and do some comparing online. Mohawk, Shaw, Mannington....they all have various flooring options.
    shecarves thanked Jill J. Wallace, Color Redesign
  • 12 years ago
    We installed plank vinyl in our den because we wanted something easy to clean because the grandkids brought in sand from playing outside and because of spills and we love it. We keep the living room much cleaner this way. It's also reasonably priced. :)
    shecarves thanked User
  • 12 years ago
    There are no other issues than the uneven floors. The flooring shop said they would have to have their 'fellow' at the house for one week to level everything. I wish I could save the floors, however, this is not an option. I have already taken off 3 layers of flooring and 2 sub floors. A bit of irony is that the flooring companies owner built and lived in this home for it's first 30 years. I have removed laminate, lino, parquet and asbestos tiles full of staples. I am now down to old pine that is VERY damaged. I will continue to ck on the vinyl flooring but will try to get these floors level so I can go with my original plan.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Oh my goodness. Be safe with the asbestos...and lead paint based on the age of the house. Good luck on your research.
    shecarves thanked Jill J. Wallace, Color Redesign
  • 12 years ago
    Oh, that is so awful. Sorry. :(
    shecarves thanked User
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    I would recommend installing a wood-looking porcelain plank tile floor (if it's the wood that you like). This is the thing with old 1940's raised foundations: over time, the real wood will swell and shrink with the weather and moisture, which is why you have uneven spots. One of the quickest and least costly fixes is to install a tile over the original wood. A great tile setter can float hardy backer and thin-set on top of the original wood to even the surface. You need the hardy backer, by the way, to prevent the tile from cracking over time. More importantly, if it's wood that you like, there are a number of vendors that make 6x36 or 8x36 tile that looks exactly like wood, and unlike real wood or laminate wood, it will not scratch with general wear and tear and your maintenance of the floor will be far less than what you'd expect from wood.
    shecarves thanked LS+DG
  • 12 years ago
    This Old House did a show on levelling wood floor.
    shecarves thanked User
  • 12 years ago
    shecarves- Very hard to imagine a $20,000 quote! Can you get another quote? If your mother will be living in this home, I would go with the Luxury Vinyl Plank that others have suggested. It is definitely very easy to keep clean and sanitary. It is softer and warmer than tile. And the brand I am familiar with has enough texture that it is NOT slippery. Lots of great articles here on Houzz about "Aging in Place" and "ADA design".

    Useful web forums with professional installers. http://www.thefloorpro.com/community/#public-forums-pro-do-yourselfer-consumer
    http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/flooring/
    shecarves thanked bubbasgma
  • 12 years ago
    The slip factor is a good point. Hardwood can be slippery. Nice vinyl for now might be a better option due to ability to clean it and less risk of slipping. Depending on health, the cleaning thing can be a big issue, too.
    shecarves thanked KD
  • 12 years ago
    shecarves- Did the estimate include removal/abatement of old asbestos tile, asbestos adhesive, and asbestos dust? Nasty stuff you don't want to grind and sand without taking adequate safety precautions.

    With the newer Luxury Vinyl Plank, you can do a light skim coat of leveler to fill cracks and encapsulate the old asbestos tile/asbestos mastic, making removal unnecessary. I've read that the "click/lock" and "tape strip" types have some disadvantages. We are planning Karndean LooseLay Planks for our below grade, lower level remodel. The LooseLay can be lifted and dried and then reinstalled!
    shecarves thanked bubbasgma
  • 12 years ago
    bubbasgma maked excellent points about the vinyl flooring as well as the asbestos problems.
  • 12 years ago
    Here is some sheet vinyl that we put in our kitchen. I wanted no cracks because we have a dog and we also go south in the winter and there is freezing and thawing. These are not individual planks but a solid sheet.
    shecarves thanked J Petempich
  • 12 years ago
    Bubbasgma the company would not remove the tiles. The estimate was just for the leveling and installation. I will be removing the tiles if they must go but I think just the leveling agent as you said will cover and thus not need removing. I already had the company come from 4 hrs. away to remove the asbestos insulation in the ceiling so I won't be bringing them back - very expensive and I can be careful etc. Unfortunately - living in a small community and not having a lot of choices of companies to ck out can cause difficulties. I will look into the vinyl more - It sounds like a very good option. Thanks everyone.
  • 12 years ago
    shecarves- post some photos here, and on the floor pro forum link, surely some installers can help you find the best, most economical solution.
    shecarves thanked bubbasgma