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How can I update my kitchen within the given constraints?

12 years ago
My husband and I recently moved into his childhood home. We need to update many areas including the kitchen. While he is okay with most of my ideas, he will not budge on changing the 1990s cabinets in any way other than hardware. Also, he insists on a natural hickory floor which I love the idea of for all of the house except the kitchen because I'm afraid the grains in the cabinets and flooring will compete and be too busy. Even so, those are done deals.

Having said that, my plan is to paint the walls Benjamin Moore's Landscape (green). This color will continue into our family room which runs together with the kitchen. The countertops will be quartz (polished Pearl White which has grayish/silverish flecks throughout it. The backsplash will be small glass tiles that are a pale green, blue, and white. Appliances and sink will be stainless. In order to try to tone down all of the wood, I'd like to change out the stools with ones that are either painted or metal. Not sure about window treatments yet. As you can surely surmise, I am no designer, and any ideas, help, suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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  • 12 years ago
    I would love to see the pictures! Not sure if I'm understanding your question. I use an ipad, and I click on "attach a photo", then on "from library". My camera roll pops up in the list, and I just have to select which I want.
  • 12 years ago
    Hi. I am looking at oak cabinets. White counter top. Stainless steel sink. But what for a floor? Vinyl yes, but what color. We have oak flooring through out the house which I love - but oak flooring in the kitchen would certainly be too much. Ant experience with a white pebble vinyl floor?
  • 12 years ago
    I agree, I don't think that the color palette you picked will work with the cabinets. They are a warm tone, so you might want to go with a lighter, pale yellow to go with the dining room yellow.
  • 12 years ago
    mers_2 Most of my work is in my I phone so I was trying to upload pictures from that....sending by mail to my inbox and then upload. For whatever reason, it didn't send from the phone....still working on it. Probably would be easier if I used an ipad.

    Interesting how many people have those honey colored cabinets, huh? For anyone who does and has stainless appliances, add a round silver knob to your cabinets....it will make a nice change.

    *xandi527 - if you need to do vinyl, use white. Tie your counter tops to your floor. If you can afford a 12 x 12 vinyl square, that is what I would recommend.
  • 12 years ago
    Do you have the houzz app on your phone? If so, you could probably get them into your comments just as I do with the iPad. (Not trying to be pushy. Just trying to help.) :)
  • 12 years ago
    Merci Antiques. Thank you for your quick reply. I was thinking of sheet vinyl. However I am open to all suggestions. I did not mention we have a large custom cranberry red buffet. It holds a gigantic amount of "stuff" in our kitchen. We downsized last year - this is one item I could not part sign.
  • 12 years ago
    You might consider taking some of the upper cabinet doors off and trying an interesting paper or fabric on the inside. Might work as a compromise.
  • 12 years ago
    Nancy, thanks for your suggestions. Not sure why, but I just don't care for the "warmer" colors with my cabinets. I feel like they enhance the orange hues that I hate.

    Somewhere in the back of my mind, I'm remembering my Art 101 class where I was told that it can be okay to choose from the opposite side of the color wheel which I believe the gray is?

    Anyway, I could be way off base, I just know that, for some reason, I like that sort of combination better. I may be wrong with the exact products, but I feel I'm closer there than with the warmer tones.
  • 12 years ago
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    Hi Mers I took another look and wondered if the island could be painted black? You can buy unfinished beadboard at Home Depot and paint it for behind the island. The black BB will add some texture - if you like then paint sides and front face of the island cabinets to match- -it would look awesome with stainless steel range. and the grey tone countertop would be great contrast.Perhaps look for a neutral vinyl for floor.. I always wait until all is done before deciding the floor- there are many choices so stand back and decide after the rest is done. The BB from the Depot you just paint and "test" by plopping against back of counterbar standback and live with it for a few days.. The stainless hardware all around will pull the look together and this "trial" will cost less than $30.00. I painted my BB in 2 ft strips- black- charocoal- pewter- cream - slate blue it's a great visual aide! And it's NOT permanent so try different things if the island as a different color works for you.
  • 12 years ago
    I had considered painting just the island, but I couldn't get my husband to budge although if I pushed hard enough, that could be a compromise he would grudgingly go for. I like your idea for test driving it. Thanks for the tip.
  • 12 years ago
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    mers, maybe take a look at the topic I posted here asking for help with suitable wall paint colors with my oaks cabinets. I already mentioned some of them, but there were other suggestions. It's hard because people disagree on the right wall color...nothing yellow-ish, gray will clash with the cabinets, etc. I totally agree with you about NOT using a color that will enhance the orange hues in the cabinets. Maybe we can find a color we both like!

    Here's a link to the thread I posted...

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/help-best-paint-color-with-oak-cabinets-dsvw-vd~891133
  • 12 years ago
    Would hubby let you paint island and window frames. Would really cut down on wood and lighten room. Do you think he would go for slate floor. If you Paint window frame, shutters might be good for window in matching color (white for island and window?).
    Of course, use others suggestions to change hardware and remove sash between cabinets over sink.
  • 12 years ago
    One more thing. If you use gray for wall a cream color would be nice for island and window. Could still use slate gray floors. Saw it done in strips in a herringbone pattern. Really nice.
  • 12 years ago
    Chloebid, thanks for the link. It was indeed helpful. And you are right about people having very different views on what goes with the cabinets. I've been web surfing all day and have come to the conclusion to simply go with what I like. We have no intentions of selling in the near future, so I might as well just please us.

    I think I'm going with the last set I posted but am switching the wall color to blue. Our kitchen flows into our family room, and the paint color goes really well with our furniture et al. In my estimation, it does not clash with the cabinets. I plan to take down the wooden valance and hang Roman shades in some darker variation of the blue. The cabinet hardware will be brushed nickel. The counter stools will be updated as well.

    To everyone, thanks for all of your input. It helped me to figure out my own likes and dislikes whereas before, I really had no idea what I preferred.

    Great site!
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    12 years ago
    Does your husband like this idea?

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    12 years ago
    I hate to see you go to the expense of quartz countertops on oak cabinets. Quartz (especially the color you are going for) is a very contemporary look and conflicts with the shape of the arched raised panels. I love wood and I never specify painting a quality wood species. So I understand when men (in particular) are adverse to painting it. But unless oak is quartersawn, I'm all for painting it.

    A glass backsplash will go well with the quartz............but still conflict with the dated oak. (sorry). Your cabinets are such a big part of your kitchen and given your (good taste) choices, they will seem out of place. If you really can't change the cabinets, you might reconsider and do countertops and backsplashes more fitting with the oak.
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks for your insights. I appreciate them. I know my husband pretty well. He likes what I chose. My hope is to get those renovations completed and then to get him to paint the cabinets. By that time, he will have had time to deal with the changes and be more easily swayed.
  • 12 years ago
    mers, you posted "I might as well just please us." I think that's what matters most.
  • 12 years ago
    Mers I love your selections! I'm sure once they are all in your husband will want to have the cabinets painted white too. Also, have you had that priced out? I did, and it was less expensive than I thought it would be.
  • 12 years ago
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    Mers, I think we are living together in some alternate universe! We have the same cabinets, and the same problem in "differences of opinion". I'il be watching your progress, so please keep this thread updated!
    I really like the latest ideaboard! Love the flooring especially. Looks great to me!
  • 12 years ago
    chloebud's renovation looks great! Amazing what difference removing the wallpaper makes!
  • 12 years ago
    Chloebud's renovation does look great! And thanks for the support and encouragement. Now I'll throw in a piece of info I left out before.

    My husband is a contractor and will be doing our renovation himself. If anyone out there has a contractor husband, you'll know what I mean when I say that he will be doing our job " on the side". So I will be happy to share the results, but just keep in mind that we are still in the pricing everything out stage and then we will be moving at his "on the side" pace. Patience is a virtue, right? :)
  • 12 years ago
    hahaha yep. Mine isn't a contractor, but he woodworks, and is a general DIYer with enough ability that anything anyone else does isn't good enough. Also, has a FT job, and hobbies that keeps him from the housey stuff I need done. Yes, we do have the same life. Went without trim for three years in first house, and currently it's been one and half years in the new one with no trim (yet) because "I can do that!"... It's a "look" we've grown used to. :(
  • 12 years ago
    Rredpenn, lol. Glad to meet you. I know all about the "I can do it better than anyone else" syndrome.

    Many years ago, I went a full year without shelves we needed in our office, which incidentally, was my workspace. Spent that time tripping over boxes, hunting for work items, and keeping my young children from getting into all of it. After stubbing my toe on a box one morning, I drove myself to Lowes, found some prefab shelving, and spent my day installing it in a closet in the office. Then I put everything from the boxes on the shelves, and threw the boxes out. That evening I saw my husband heading into the bathroom when he noticed the boxes had disappeared from the office. He looked around, opened the closet door, and shook his head. Then he came to me and said, "Please don't ever do that again." I smiled. Incidentally, those shelves remained there for the next 15 years. Heavy sigh...
  • 12 years ago
    Remove the cabinet doors on both sides of the windows and paint the interior of the cabinets to go with your walls. That will give you some relief from the sea of wood.

    Are the cabinet carcasses in good shape? Usually those are 15+ years old and "builder grade" and not holding up very well. It would be a pity to go to the expense of new counters and have the cabinets fall apart underneath them.
  • 12 years ago
    These were custom built cabinets in great shape. Thanks for the paint tip. I'll think about that
  • 12 years ago
    mers, what color is the gray paint you posted? It's Ben Moore, right?
  • 12 years ago
    Chloebid, it was Benjamin Moore's Nightingale.
  • 12 years ago
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    Thanks mers...it looks good. Wish I could settle on a color. Right now I have paint chips all over the walls. I know you can't truly judge from them, but it's a starting point. I've discovered that sometimes even the little test cans of paint aren't the same as the bigger ones. I'm also having a dilemma with our family room...then I'll move on to the other rooms. Sure wish it was just the kitchen!
  • 12 years ago
    I know what you mean. It's a daunting task. But think how good you'll feel when you're done! Good luck.
  • 12 years ago
    "Really, honey, I don't have a clue what happened! I was just walking through with a can of primer, tripped and splashed it all over the cabinets...in precise brush strokes...even on the inside...with nothing getting on the floor...it's a miracle really."
  • 12 years ago
    Per my previous suggestion, I Found a picture of painted island and window frames. Looks great with the wood cabinets. Baby steps. After you live with this a while your husband might change his mind.
  • 12 years ago
    Have you thought of refacing the cabinets with different doors? It's less money, less intrusive, and preserves the cabinets he likes... that was my thinking for our oaky kitchen with dated doors. Our cabinets are well made (which is the problem!) but pretty ugly.

    With my otherhalf, getting a real life size example in the space helps to win him over. Get a cabinet door or two at the ReStore. See if a different color/style/finish looks good to him. Or get a couple of tester paint pots in colors you are considering. Paint the loose doors, and prop them up in various places in the kitchen, and see if anything inspires him to change his mind.

    Sometimes a real visual can bring my husband around, anyhow.
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks to both of you for the great suggestions.
  • 12 years ago
    We recently moved into my parents' former home, so we've been down this path. I have found certain changes to be difficult. Be patient with your husband. My folks had 40 year old custom cabinets that were solid wood. Rather than replacing them, we had the doors and drawers stripped and refinished, and the cabinet bodies touched up for a few scratches. The work was done by a professional furniture refinisher and the finished product is amazing! I didn't change the color of the cabinets because I liked the dark cherry color, but I easily could have asked for another tone. You may want to consider getting a quote/ideas from a furniture refinisher. You may find that removing some of the orange tone from the cabinets will make a big difference. For us, it was faster, cheaper and easier than refacing or replacing the cabinets AND I got to keep my parents' cabinets.
    Sharon thanked Carol Vachon
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks, Carol. That's a great suggestion that I certainly will consider.
  • 12 years ago
    I don't disagree with you in terms of the importance of the flooring and the countertop. The placement of a hickory floor throughout the house, with the exception of the kitchen, has already been agreed upon by us. And we both agreed with a lighter tone. Additionally, the countertop has been chosen and agreed upon, and it is lighter. He really couldn't care less about the paint or any of the rest of the selections other than the cabinets. At this point, I'm happy with where we are, and I'm positive we will both enjoy our new kitchen.
  • 12 years ago
    Gratz Mers So glad you got it all sorted!
  • 12 years ago
    You have a nice big space! All of the changes you have planned to make will make a big difference. I have been impressed with the pictures on Houzz with crown molding on the soffits. It really makes a difference to me. Check them out and good luck. Send us pics when you are done.
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks. I must say that this site was a huge help in putting things into perspective for me. I love the diversity of opinions and the willingness of the participants to sort through issues and try to come up with viable options. Thanks!
  • 12 years ago
    You have been assimilated and joined the collective!
  • 12 years ago
    Just catching up here and got a good laugh.
    @Rredpenn and mers_2 we need to start a support group of wives of handy but hardheaded husbands. I know my SIL would join us. I too have gone years without ,much needed shelves because hubby designs some wonderful wood ones then balks at the price or time to build them. Then I catch flak for building wire or laminate shelves. Some how we can afford the big boy toys but not shelves for my art supplies.
    Honey oak and honey do projects and hard head hubbies- got to love them!
  • 12 years ago
    Forgive me, but sounds like he may a psychological/emotional connection to the kitchen (specifically) in addition to his preference for the general look of it. Accordingly, why don't you do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the kitchen-for now.

    Focus on really bringing current the rest of the house and the kitchen will standout like a sore thumb. THEN if he doesn't come to you about changes (which I'm thinking he just might) at least you still will have the option of incorporating the suggestions others have given you- but HOPEFULLY he will see your (current/updating) ideas make a lot of sense.

    Perhaps also you could get some pictures of his family in the kitchen and incorporate into the new design for the sake of nostalgia.
  • 12 years ago
    I had the same kitchen, I painted my cupboards white on top and a washed grey on the bottom they look fantastic! Good luck and of course new hardware backsplash etc
  • 12 years ago
    Fouhyr any pictures? That sounds pretty nifty!
  • 11 years ago

    First get rid of the blinds! Nothing to obstruct light, please. If the view is absolutely unacceptable, a stained glass look overlay.

  • 11 years ago

    That's a really nice sized kitchen. Busy oak cabinets are not going to go well with hickory floors unless you want the log cabin look. But you know that already. Change out the hardware, take out that wood valance and live with it for a while. Even if you install the wood floors, your husband still might not think it's too busy. How about a simple gray floor tile? Something that doesn't class with oak.

  • 11 years ago

    old post

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    11 years ago

    Old post that landed in my INBOX this morning?

  • 5 years ago

    I would love to see the pictures! Not sure if I'm understanding your question. I use an ipad, and I click on "attach a photo", then on "from library". My camera roll pops up in the list, and I just have to select which I want.