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What would you do? Botched tile job.

11 years ago
I have had multiple issues with my remodel. The latest issue has to do with the penny round installation in my powder room and master bath shower. I wanted white penny rounds and white grout. There are several areas where there are distinctive gray patches showing through the grout.

After doing my research I concluded that the tile installer probably used dark gray thinset instead of white (it is cheaper). In the powder room it is only in patches. The master shower just looks dirty and gray tinged. My contractor swears up and down that the tile installer used white thinset to set the tile. He says it is dirt and color variations in the tile (I will attach another picture of the tile before it was installed to show lack of color variation). He is VERY adamant and says he will pull all the tile up if I want him to, as long as I pay the cost to replace it if the thinset is discovered to be white. Today, I pulled up a few tiles in the powder room and found half of the thinset to be dark gray and half to be white. I do not know about the master shower as there are no areas for me to easily pull up (although I did attach a picture of before the grout was set and it looks dark gray to me).

My family is telling me to leave it because we have SOOOO many other outstanding issues with our project, but I am angry. We paid several thousands of dollars for this tile work and it looks bad to me and our contractor is lying to us again...would you accept this work or would you live with it? I wanted white on white.

Comments (12)

  • 11 years ago
    Here are the penny rounds before install. No color variations.
  • 11 years ago
    ugh is right - that shower will always look dirty - poor work and lies - fight.
    lindseyjjb thanked bgfuqua
  • 11 years ago
    Fight it. Its too much money to let go. Don't buy into someone else's mistake. Love the wood on the outside of the shower. Nice touch!
    lindseyjjb thanked Liz Call
  • 11 years ago
    I work for home depot you can get copies of the receipt and quotes for materials to prove when he switched mortars fight also call your state Board of contractors and the better business Bureau you have rights friend
  • 11 years ago
    Fight, or they will just use the incidence as a sign that you are worn down and who know what other shortcuts they will take. It will also forever aggravate you when you look at it.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    I can't see much in the photos, honestly they might just not have maintained a clean job site and the grout got dirty. At this point if you haven't signed off on it needs to be corrected no matter what color thinset they used. Honestly though, use a really pale grey grout- your penny rounds will pop more and be easier to keep looking clean! And make sure to seal it!

    And of course use white thinset!
  • 11 years ago
    White thinset is only needed with a translucent stone like marble, or a transparent tile like glass. It makes absolutely zero difference in a porcelain or ceramic installation.

    Grey thinset 's is not the problem with your install. It very definately could be dirt. Or shadows from the directionality of the lighting. I'll take your word for it that you perceive a problem, but it isn't visible in the photos.

    The tile is laid very well, with no telegraphing of where the sheets join. In the picture shown, I cannot see any color difference in the grout. It appears to be white on white. For now. It won't be for long after use, as even white epoxy grout doesn't *stay* white for very long. It yellows. Which is why a light grey is recommended.
  • 11 years ago
    What material is the tile made of? I see the blotchy spots in the photos. I have a large touch screen pc, so I can zoom. :) This may sound stupid, but have you tried to clean a few tiles to see if you get up any dirt? Use a white cloth of course. I agree the tiles look different after the install. Please let us know what happens. I do agree with Sophie, unless you have something translucent, it should not matter. I prefer white thinset anyway, because if you have a messy installer, they can transfer the thinset on to the top of the tiles. Good luck!
  • 9 years ago

    I will tell you now, I'd make him fix it before he touched another thing. I hired a supposed good renov business, Tim Masenilli in Hot Springs Ar. I asked for subway tile in my bathroom, the spacing was off and because I had wanted black grout it was very obvious. He told me he would fix it, but he never even addressed it again. He also didn't use the edge pieces because he said they were too expensive. I let it go until the end needless to say $40,000.00 later he fixed nothing. He put the cheapest materials he could in my home so now all I can do is have the job redone by a true craftsman instead of a fly by night loser. Make him fix it now!

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Every sheet should have been unwrapped and checked before he or she installed them. It has to be a variance in tiles. In tile person's defense that would not be easy to catch laying tile. If they were inspected beforehand yes.


    On another note why do people keep choosing these tile based solely on looks. Penny round tile on a floor is basically like grouting 40% of your floor. Do you know how much dirt you will see. You want a tile with as much tile coverage vs grout lines in anything but a statement section.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    the grout looks fine. The tiles change colors. The penny rounds are different colors. could be from different lots, or batches.