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Solar Shades... 3%, 5% or 10% or a combo?

12 years ago
I am trying to get rid of my old blinds and install solar shades across Living and Dining room/kitchen (that are connected to each other). See the floor plan (round window is living, the other pic is for dining). I can only do White Blinds or Rollers due to building code.

Living room looks over great view of water and a park, with little chance of seeing through from the outside (but still a bit of privacy would be nice)... dining room however is right across buildings that can easily see into the apartment so that needs privacy both day and night.

My question is what roller openness factor shall I use? I was thinking of doing 5 or 10% in the living, and 3% or maybe even 1% in the dining.

- Does 10% offer ANY privacy at night? or it'd be basically see-through?
- What about 5%? This is leading candidate for living room... could this be just good enough for night privacy if there's not much chance of looking in from outside?
- For living room, would a 3% be sufficient to provide both day and night time privacy? or should I go even less open to 1%? I don't care if ppl can see shadows, as long as they cannot make out exactly what's happening.

I have got samples, but they're so small that it's very hard to tell (specially how it would work at night)!

Any help is appreciated!

Comments (36)

  • PRO
    12 years ago
    will give this a bump for you ! :-)
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Whichever percentage you choose, keep them consistent. The manufacturer should have various samples for you to look at.
  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    Since your living and dining rooms are continuous in your open floor plan, I agree with Dytecture that the percentage should be consistent. I think, however, that it is fine to change the percentage in an entirely separate room or when there isn't any angle from which you can see the two different sets of blinds in the same visual field.
  • 12 years ago
    So do you think if I kept the round windows at 5% and then from Balcony over did it in 3% it wouldn't look fine ? There's a visual break there although windows are continuous.
  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    It looks to me from your open floor plan as if you can see both the balcony windows and the round windows in the same visual field from some of the seats in your dining room, yes? In that case I'd advise you to keep them consistent. But if you really feel strongly that you need the different percentages for privacy, view, and comfort from glare then as long as the fabrics match otherwise I don't think it is a huge problem blocking more of the light from the balcony. But you will be able to see the subtle difference from some angles of the dining room.
  • 12 years ago
    Ok, thanks, I will try to be as consistent as possible... my main question is privacy of those solar shades... 3%, 5% or 1%?
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    One good rule of thumb is what you can see out during the day is what someone else can see in, in the evening. We have a nice chart that can explain it further in detail. Go to http://www.solar-screen-shades.com and if you need a larger sample of a fabric just let us know we would be happy to send to you.
  • 12 years ago
    I wouldn't rely on solar shades for privacy. I have 5% and 1%, in different rooms, and they do a great job blocking the afternoon sun, but I don't really think they give privacy. I can see outside during the day, and I imagine anyone outside could see in at night if the lights are on.
  • 11 years ago

    Alexbc - what did you end up going with and how do you like the solar shades? I'm trying to make the same decision. Thanks.


  • 10 years ago

    To add color to this discussion: I have a mid-century modern house that is 1 story, and my living room has a wall of glass overlooking a public park. I waited until night time, turned on all my lights, taped up solar screen swatches, had my spouse stand in front of the windows, and then I went outside into the park to see how much privacy we'd have. A 10% open swatch made it impossible to see anything in any meaningful detail. All I could see of my spouse was a shadowy figure. If I went right up to the glass, it was no different. If my spouse shined a flash light directly on her face, I could make out some detail when I was close - like standing in the yard. But otherwise, none.

  • 10 years ago
    Thanks. So 10% was providing enough privacy?

    To he earlier question. I haven't done anything yet as it was too costly for all of these windows and I also couldn't figure out which brand or company to go with.

    At this point I might go with 5% and 3% .
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Chris - thanks so much for the thoughtful review and detailed explanation. I have abedroom window that's 96" x 132". So far the only company I found that could provide a solar shade of that size was The Shade Store. I don't want to split up the windows or have a seam. Would you be willing to tell me which company you used?

  • 10 years ago

    Sure, blinds.com.

  • 10 years ago
    Did you try deliashades.com?
  • 9 years ago

    I too am in the market for roller shades and can't decide between 5% and 3%. I'm also concerned about bleaching effect of the sun on some artwork and the dark wooden floors that I have. The guy I'm working with says 5% is not effective but rather the 3% is. However I like the color in 5% and that is not available in 3%. Any insight in to choose the right color shades will be helpful.. TIA .. Usha

  • 9 years ago

    Sreepad - see Treadwell's answer above, which I found pretty helpful. We worked with several blinds people & companies and I have to say, when we asked the question of 3 vs 5%, almost everyone indicated it makes a negligible difference at best and both are equally sufficient. Guess it just comes down to which side you want to err on: more visibility (5%) vs more blockage (3%). Good luck.

  • 8 years ago

    I am also considering solar blinds for our bedroom. Do 1% blinds block out enough light in the morning or afternoon for a nap?

  • 8 years ago

    Yes 1% would block out enough.

  • 8 years ago

    Is there much light that comes in at the edges of the shades?

  • 8 years ago

    I recommend deciding your primary objectives for each room: light control, privacy vs. view, heat/glare reduction, style. For example, for our home, we decided:

    • Public spaces (living, kitchen, dining, nook): heat/glare reduction, preserve view

    • Private spaces: privacy, light control

    In our home we decided on blackout shades in bedrooms for privacy and light control, and solar shades in the public spaces at 10% openness. We already have window film that reduces heat/UV by about 50%, so with the solar shades, we net 95% reduction in UV/heat without having to go with less openness. And we don't completely obscure our views.

    Smith & Noble now has "Solar Dual Shades," allowing you to get blackout (for absolute light control and privacy) and solar shades for different times of day.

    Regarding privacy, another factor to consider is the distance between the eye and the shades. The closer you get to a mesh, the more clearly you can see through it. So if you live in a high-rise, I'm pretty sure you can count on near complete privacy even at 10% openness, but if someone can walk right up to your window, they might be able to see a LOT more clearly than from across the street.

  • 8 years ago
    I live across a narrow street from neighbors, with one window partially open to a park in an open plan apartment. My apartment and my neighbors across the street have huge windows. I wanted to see the park during the day, preserve my privacy and protect my antique tribal textiles.

    I installed white silk screened shades with 10% by the park and 3% on the rest. Looks fine, but perhaps the pattern makes the differences in the density less noticeable. No privacy issues.

    http://www.deliashades.com/
  • 8 years ago
    I have 13 sets of sliding glass doors that make up the exterior walls of my apartment. I wanted to protect art and furniture inside but reduce heat and UV rays from the outside, all while maintaining river and city views. Privacy is not a huge issue as I am on the 17th floor of the only high rise in my small city. I chose 5% shades and they meet all my requirements. They also provide privacy as you can’t see through them at night from the balcony. I’ve wondered if I could have gotten the same benefit from the 3% shades, as well as, more of the view, but the 5% work great to reduce heat gain and, as I still worry about getting too much UV light, I’d worry more with 3%. I could not tell the difference between my 5% and 3% samples (although they are small, as you note) so I think you could mix them without noticing the difference. But I believe 3/5% and 10% would be noticeable. Good luck! They are expensive so you want to be happy with your decision.
  • 8 years ago
    Just realized this thread is from 2014! Not sure why it’s here, four years later, but I hope you’re happy with your decision!
  • 8 years ago
    Just another thing to consider, how intense is the sun. We live in Denver with a huge western exposure. Even with our 3% shades closed it’s really hard to block it out the sun enough to watch tv. I wish I would have gone less see through.
  • 8 years ago

    Thinking of buying solar shades for a 75" sliding glass door It is to block out the suns rays and heat as we eat dinner. It is a western view with no concern for privacy at all. Should I get a 3%, 5% or can I go with higher? It is very hot and the sun beats in.

  • 8 years ago

    Sadly, the tiny swatches they send you don't give you a good sense of how the whole blind will look/work. You pretty much have to take your best guess!

    We did tint our northwest facing windows to reduce heat by about 50%, but it's still very hot in the late afternoon sun. I was planning on going 10 or 14% openness to preserve the view, but the samples I got show you can't see much of the view even at 10% with the sun glaring in, so I'm thinking of just getting 3-5% and just leaving them up 90% of the day, only closing them in the late afternoon.

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks for the response

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks for such a detailed explanation of solar shades FROM THE OUTSIDE. A review such as yours is startling scarce on the web.

  • 7 years ago

    Hi! I am installing charcoal shades in our bedroom—deciding between 1% and 3%. I’m not worried about the privacy factor as much as how well they will keep out the morning sunlight. We are still using the ones that were here when we moved in. They are opaque white roller shades and keep the room very dark which is nice. I like the looks of the 3% but think 1% might be the smarter way to go. Any feedback welcome!

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    hi Kate. Are your shades dark or light? i am looking at Charcoal 3% solar shades. i have a western view of the ocean and need to block the sun glare in the evening. Would still like to see view.

  • 6 years ago

    Kathyday, these are Hunter Douglas 3% solar shades. These are west facing morning light, so it is not a direct light now. You can vaguely see the building next door.

  • 6 years ago

    These are 3% solar panels downstairs in the afternoon and the darker one is evening. Another west facing window. Hope that helps.

  • 6 years ago

    I have roll-up solar shades on four 9’ windows facing a city-to-ocean view. I don’t remember the visibility percentage, but we can see (with the shades down) the view during the day and city lights at night, so I am guessing the “openness” percentage is higher rather than lower. There is a long 8’-wide covered porch which blocks any glaring sunlight. Surely the sales person can bring large enough samples of the roller fabric for you to get a good idea of how much you can see. Our neighbors can see in only from their pool patio, and that isn’t much of a problem.

  • 6 years ago

    amchogan - what did you end up going with and is your room dark enough in the morning to keep one from waking up? Our guest rooms are west facing with no need for privacy, but get glaring sun in the afternoon and are quite light early in the morning (like 4:30 AM) even though we are west facing. I do not want blackout curtains though... Am curious to see what has worked for others.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    We are in a building with eastern facing windows debating openess for the living room and a second bedroom used primarily as an office We have desks that face the windows so the morning sun is bad must we get blackout to be able to work?