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Is all Super White Quartzite Soft and Brittle?

I have loved the photos of Super White Quartzite and everything i have read about quartzite, i.e., the look of marble but the durability of granite. I finally saw some at a stone yard and fell madly in love with it. When I gave the sample to my builder he pulled out his knife and proceeded to scratch it then dropped it on the ground and it broke into pieces!! Obviously, it was super soft and NOT scratch resistant. Has anyone else observed this? I have heard that some quartzites are brittle and unfortunately, it looks like this is one of them.
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  • 12 years ago
    We just had super white granite and counters installed in our kitchen. The fabricator actually broke 3 slabs during the process of cutting and said that they have had many issues with it breaking easily. It is beautiful and is exactly the look we wanted, but I'm worried it isn't very durable. We had it honed and sealed with a 15 yr warranty. We installed small glass tiles in the backsplash and a 1 inch by 1 inch tile fell 2 inches to the counter and left 3 marker tip size chips in the granite. We also had a basket of fruit on the island and and a piece of over ripe fruit drip juice onto the the island and it dried. When I used the granite cleaner provided to clean it off we are still able to see a mark on the granite. On the other hand my son set down a ceramic bowl a little too hard on the counter and it shattered. The granite was very expensive and I am disappointed that it isn't more durable, especially since we have kids.
  • 12 years ago
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    circusof6 from what I've been reading about super white is that it's actually quartZITE not granite and often yards will sell marble as Super White. The marble breaks easily but true Super White quartzite will not chip so easily

    This is also what kellie above has been talking about
  • 12 years ago
    also what's with the semi-off topic advertising I see all over houzz
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Re: the off topic ads,
    Houzz has become so big with both "qualified" traffic and search-ability that many people selling something are spamming the place up. There is not enough moderation or policy on this matter... it creates one more link back to what he is selling.
  • 12 years ago
    I wish we could vote random ads down or mark as spam like on YouTube
  • 12 years ago
    shalago - I am really hoping you might remember where you purchased the tufted white diamond shape porcelain tile?
  • 12 years ago
    hedrickfamily- I purchased the tile from a place in Matawan NJ- Tiles Unlimited. The brand name is Cobsa. Hope that helps...
  • 12 years ago
    shalago- now that more time as passed, thoughts on your quartzite? Also, was is honed or polished? Thanks
  • 12 years ago
    Gina, I believe that the quartzite that I got is a cross between marble and quartzite. It chips very easily and is rough in certain areas. It's beautiful and looks just like carrara with speckles of crystal in it but I think I was given a dolomite marble instead (from what I read). My friends quartzite holds up much much better than mine.
  • 12 years ago
    @ shalago- thank you for your info. The only place I have found with a classic white quartzite is marble.com. They said if we go quartzite they will fix any issue with it, should there be any but not marble. I remember you saying your experience was not all that good with them, so I'm keeping it in my mind. How can I tell if the quartzite I like there is "solid"?
  • 12 years ago
    @ rjacobson333 i'm also looking into Cristallo and saw your post. How is your counter holding up with etching and staining? Does it take a lot of maintenance?
  • 12 years ago
    Well - we try to be pretty careful with our counters, meaning that we don't put anything with rough edges on them or anything that is metal (like even spiral notebooks...the metal will leaves small scratch lines). pretty much everything etches it - if the hand soap drips and we don't see it to wipe it off right when it happens it will etch it, same with pretty much with a majority of food spills. I was using my large crockpot to cook something and had it sitting on the counter while cooking and the heat caused one of the natural fissure lines to crack more -so I wouldn't recommend using hot things like a crock pot on it. Because it is a honed finish the etching doesn't seem to stand out much to others. They look pretty, but I am concerned about the cracking and then not holding up even without us accidentally staining them. The seam where they put the 2 counters pieces together has completely separated and now will have to be refilled. So if I was starting from the beginning I would choose something else that is usable and doesn't create stress in a room that gets so much use. Hope that this helps :)
  • 12 years ago
    circusof6- thanks for the info. I would never have thought of the crock pot or hand soap. Very helpful info.
  • 11 years ago
    @ Gina-What I would do is when you go there, have them give you a pc. of the quartzite you like and bring it to someone who knows about stone. Someone who is able to tell you if it is genuinely quartzite. I don't trust that marble.com will tell you the truth. If quartzite really is harder than granite like I read it should be, then I did not get quartzite.
  • 11 years ago
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    quartz and quartzite are two different things. Quartz is very durable, quartzite is softer than granite.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago
    Actually quartzite is an extremely hard stone. Harder than granite, but it is also very brittle
  • 11 years ago
    I just installed leathered sequoia quartzite yesterday and have some issues with cracks and width of seams. Waiting to hear back from fabricator about these issues. I was wondering how to tell if this is a soft quartzite and if there is a way to tell how strong this is.
  • 11 years ago

    tarcor211 - would you give an update on your countertop? I am really wanting to buy a slab of leathered sequoia for our new kitchen island - its so beautiful. But I'm very concerned with durability. In addition to your installation issues with cracking and the seems, have you had any issues with damage from use? Etching or staining, rings from glasses etc?

  • 11 years ago
    kimannow
    I am actually waiting for both the fabricator and distributor
    To come to my home this Wednesday. It is a very beautiful stone and it has been installed already but not used yet we still have some other things to do. I will let you know what happens hopefully this can be resolved as painlessly as possible....
  • PRO
    11 years ago

    I finished this beautiful Super White quartzite vanity top in April of 2014 with no problems to date. Client loves it!


    Torry Manzo

    Renaissance Kitchen and Home


  • 11 years ago
    It's a shame Quartzite is not kid-friendly. There's no way I would be a slave to maintaining it if even the slightest bit of water creates etching on it!
  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Ocrose- Quartzite is much more like granite than marble. Water definitely does not cause etching or staining. I have had Super White quartzite in my kitchen and bar (think lemons and limes) for the last two years and have not had one issue with etching. We are adventurous cooks (parents and kids) and just by nature are not in any way cautious with our counter tops, which is the reason we didn't use the marble i would have liked to use for aesthetic reasons. In our previous home we had dark granite counters. That was 100% more of a maintenance headache because it was hard to keep it from looking streaky, even after cleaning and buffing.

  • 11 years ago

    Ocrose- mountjoy is correct. REAL Quartzite is strong. The name Super White is used by some stores for quartzite, marble, or other stones. The only way you can really tell is to test the stone

  • 11 years ago

    tarcor211

    Would you mind sending an update on your leathered sequoia? Have you used it yet? Are you having any problems with etching rings from cups, water or scratching and staining? Thanks!

  • 11 years ago
    kimannow - I am waiting for the supplier to get back to me about What they decided at the corporate meeting they had this past Friday. I have not been able to really use the kitchen because the sinks, dishwasher, cooktop and ovens are not hooked up as I am waiting to hear what the supplier is willing to do. I did contact their distributor in Italy and was told this is a SOFT quartzite and should not be used for kitchen counters the opposite of what the supplier and fabricator told me. There is a darker quartzite Mephisto it is somewhat similar and also has beautiful veining. That seems to be a hard quartzite I tried to scratch, chip, and stain it and nothing happened it stayed perfect. I wish I would have chosen that one. As far as the sequoia it shows scratches and chips from sliding a glass bottle on it and dropping my keys ;( When looking at slabs try to scratch it with a knife or even your keys hard quartzite will not mark. If it shows a scratch DON'T GET IT!!!
    Good Luck-Lynn
  • 11 years ago
    Here is a photo of mephisto from walker zanger
  • 11 years ago
    I installed super white granite (not quartzite) just about a week ago and immediately noticed it was very absorbent after I left chicken out to thaw. Although it was in the packaging the juices seeped out and stained my countertop with this pinkish color. I've tried everything to get it out but no luck. I love these countertops but it seems they stain very easily. I bought a sealant that hopefully works but unfortunately I had to learn the hard way! Such a bummer.
  • 11 years ago

    Kristen, have you tried Hydrogen Peroxide? I am in the middle of a field test with Super White quartite and it looks like it's making progress. Good luck.

  • 11 years ago

    There is a lot of conflicting information on the internet about Super White Quartzite and it's hard to know who or what to believe because there seems to be a lot of confusion - just in this post alone. I took the advice of another post and went to the granite yard to test it for myslef. My biggest concern was the staining, since most of the professionals rated quartzite a bit stronger than granite (7 vs. 6-6.5). Last night, I loaded up my quartzite sample with all the stuff I was afraid of (minus lemons as I never have them in the house, so not a big concern of mine). I used Black Diamond Granite Plus sealer on one side and did not seal the other side. At 6pm, I loaded the slab with ketchup, tomato sauce, cut tomatoes, oil, Italian sald dressing, red wine and mustard. After an hour, I wiped off 1/2 of everything on the non treated side and there was no sign of staining. I then left everything on overnight and cleaned the slab at 8am with a wet paper towel (water only). At first glance, I couldn't see ANY staining, other than the red wine, mostly on the treated side. When I looked closer, I noticed there was red wine staining on the untreated side too but I had poured it on a darker spot so it was tougher to see. Again, this is after 14.5 hrs of sitting on the stone. I poured Hydrogen peroxide on the treated side where the stain was bigger (larger amount of wine was poured on that side and it was on a lighter spot, so I dont attribute that to the sealer). It definitely helped. I'm still testing so I will update soon. Here are some photos of the test.

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  • 11 years ago

    Peroxide took the pink out after leaving it on for about an hour.


    There is still a sign of a stain there, but I've cleaned it with nothing other than water and peroxide so far. Moral of the story. Don't leave red wine on it for 14.5 hrs. :) PS, I'm sold on the beauty.

  • 10 years ago
    Robbin Cornell was your super white Quartzite honed or polished? I have a hold on two slabs of polished and am testing staining right now but I was thinking that I would prefer her honed so that I am not worried about etching.
  • 10 years ago
    I had Iceberg quartzite installed in the kitchen 2 months ago. I'm just sick about it because although it doesn't stain and is very beautiful, I did not realize how very soft it is. Everything scratches it and it already has crumbly spots near 2 seams. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I feel bad for you because I know what you are going through. Mine is called Antartide Quartzite but found out it is a type of marble which does scratch and etch. Mine is still beautiful..although I do have spots here and there you really can't see them. I use a polishing powder I bought online..and a chip repair kit that works wonders filling in a small chip because it's a clear resin based product and my countertop is very light. It fills in with the crystals so you never knew there was a chip. It looks like a dinky repair kit but it works. I don't let anyone slide a dish across the counter because it will scratch. I keep a clear blotter and white large cutting board on the island to make sandwiches or preparing a meal to protect the counter. I also don't seal it because I think some of the etching was from the sealer and it doesn't stain at all..It will etch if a sweating cold glass sits on the counter so I'm careful with that. My kitchen was redone with cabinets and shelves sitting directly on top of the counter so they can never been replaced without damaging the cabinets. This won't be my "Foreverhouse" because we have to move one more time in five years. I have to keep it looking nice for when I sell it. I have another house that I just put in a quartz marble look alike on the island only as a test...for when I move again. It looks so much like marble but it is so easy to take care of. If you're careful with your quartzite (marble) it will stay pretty with a little care. Good luck!

  • 10 years ago

    Kawena21, it was polished Super White

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks so much for your comment! Every countertop that I love is real marble, but I don't want to go there. I have been struggling with this decision for months now and have just about decided that the MSI Carrara Grigio is my best option. I appreciate your input.

  • 10 years ago

    shesmith97, how did the countertop come out? i am also looking at MSI carrara grigio. please let me know! thanks


  • 10 years ago

    Mc

  • 10 years ago
    I took 2 samples of white quartzite home from Marble.com last week. Soap and red wine etched after 30 min. They didn't seal it but I did. I'm beginning to think it may have not been pure quartzite.
  • 9 years ago

    Wow! So much information. I've been trying to decide on countertops for months. I've read and asked many questions and seems that most everything has issues except Granite. Problem with granite is there is no grey and white! I'm going with American made matble in my MB. Has anyone heard of that? I had not. If so, please advise. The slab is gorgeous, I'm willing to be super careful in my bath but not my kitchen.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    What you saw in that slab yard was not a quartzite, at least not the pure kind. White quartzite stone is a hard, non-foliated metamorphic rock which was originally pure quartz sandstone. Sandstone is converted into quartzite through heating and pressure usually related to tectonic compression within orogenic belts. Pure quartzite is usually white to gray, though quartzites often occur in various shades of pink and red due to varying amounts of iron oxide . Other colors, such as yellow, green, blue and orange, are due to other mineral impurities. On the Mohs test that measures how hard a material is, quartzite got a hardness mark of 8 from 10. This actually means that it’s harder than glass and can actually cut it. We provided a list of things you should pay attention to when looking for the perfect slab of Super White Quartzite - http://aquagranite.com/super-white-quartzite-everything-need-know/

  • 9 years ago

    Super White is not a quartzite.... I work for a stone yard in Houston and we often are told that others are selling their Super White as a quartzite.... It is a dolomite. (You can look that up on your own :-) When I read the above comments about Super White quartzite not performing as expected, it is because it is not a quartzite....I just want to try to clarify so that quartzite will not get an inaccurate reputation. Quartzite is extremely durable, hard like granite ...


  • 9 years ago

    thank you strictlybzz, that is what we need: more people speaking the truth

  • 9 years ago

    We were told at the stoneyard we went to that places categorize some stones inaccurately (which stinks for consumers). We saw the dolomite as mentioned in a previous comment. The person explained the differences between marble, granite, quartzite, and Dolomite (dolomite being more like marble, whereas quartzite is similar granite).

  • 9 years ago

    @shesmith97 and @bigred76 - how did the MSI Carrara Grigio come out? any pics?

  • 9 years ago

    I finally decided on a Dupont product, Zodiaq London Sky. I am happy with the appearance, durability and resemblance to marble. There were problems with the installation because my pieces came from different lots. Do not let this happen! They knew better, but made a mistake on the first piece. What I learned is that the variation in the product can be quite noticeable. It is a quartz product. All was finally satisfied, after replacement of one piece, and I am very pleased. But, it could have gone the other way!

  • 9 years ago
    i have a polished white fantasy "quartzite" but it it is soft. In fact during fabrication I was called and told that the only edge they could use is the bullnose rounded edge because it was too brittle to do a straight edge. It is almost too beautiful to describe but we have experienced dulling and etching since installed in 2015. Like another poster stated the light has to be just right to see the minor random dulling, just a few spots an about an inch or half an inch, but it is noticeable when the lights are dimmed. I don't know if it is as bad as marble but the upkeep and function have to be considered when using this product...I can't put cold drinks on it without coasters because it may leave minor etching. Beauty and form does not meet function! I would have rather gone with manufactured quartz but I would not be getting as many compliments and I would probably miss the pure gorgeousness that comes with natural stone. Major conundrum.
  • 9 years ago

    @rjcabson333....just about to say YES to Cristallo Quartzite....read SO, SO,SO many conflicting reviews.......This is definitely the look we want. Granite looks too modern and Quartz well looks way too machine made and uniform........Are you still happy with your choice?? Any advice for us????

  • 9 years ago
    After 1 year with mine installed, I still love the look of it. BUT, we aware that you cannot place keys, a rough bottomed plate such as ceramic, a pan, or such items on thus without having small surface scratches. I've had to get over obsessing with friends putting their purse down, for example. on the other hand, I'm still furious at my installer who hasn't repaired the larger chipped edges by the sink and am contemplating legal action due to the price of this stone.
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