Curt, our apologies, but we're not certain we understand your question, "where is the fire at night time?" Could you please elaborate?

Curt, it's behind you and gaining fast! Run for your life!!

I pressed Hudson by mistake, but I prefer Hedges. It goes better with our stuff.

Like seating high on a roof

@ Thos. Baker, all good sitting areas, but i like small fires for cooking as the sun goes down. After cooking is done we have a small fire in total darkness to sit by

Curt's small cooking fire

Chook...lol...i'm thinking our fire extinuisher located in kitchen needs to be upgraded to a fire department level

Curt, thank you for the explanation. Based on the videos and comments above, perhaps you need to look into one of our fire pits, so your evening fires can be nicely contained!

Good idea.

Thanks for the great input and laughs!

Arrgh! Not wicker again! ;-)

I think it's wickered!

I think it's wicked!

Witch one?

'itch un?(a little Pennsylvania Dutch)

Use wood stain on white wicker. Comes out looking good

@Curt-Yeah, mate, but how do you keep it looking good: top coat?

River, our wicker furniture is on our porch so they don't directly receive rain or snow. Plus, the sitting area has cushions so the stain there doesn't receive no direct contact with our tousies. But yes, we placed one outside underneath tree in shade and yep the stain is starting to wear off (slowly but surely), but the ones on porch still looking good

As an experiment before replacing it we also used wood stain on our vinyl siding. We did that 1.5 years ago. Still looks great. As you can guess by now we love the rustic/stain look

I went out with a guy who turned out to be a real barstool.

River Valley -- what can we do to get you to love wicker?

Curt -- a couple of coats of polyurethane and your wicker chairs could take direct hits.

chookchook -- he must've been a wicker'd barstool.

Christi, on behalf of Thos. Baker

He he! I like wicker and other woven furniture because in hot weather it lets the air through.

@chook... you mean a "Bar Tool"...

@Thomas Baker- Well, it's like this: I don't like the feel of wicker. It doesn't feel substantial and it reminds me of straw. THAT reminds me of the Three Little Pigs...which makes me wonder if pork chops and ribs are being served at the garden party/wedding. It didn't go so well for Pig 1 and Pig 2; they didn't use substantial materials to build their houses. :-p (pass the barbecue sauce, please)

River Valley -- Actually, the Three Little Pigs are no longer doing the garden party circuit. They were swayed to the Pork Side and thus, slayed by a Ribeye Knight! But get this....I heard The Emperor, Darth Pigius loves black, high-back swivel chairs in wicker! :)

chookchook -- you're right, wicker breathes!

Select Hardwood -- good correction!

Note: as much as I thoroughly enjoy having giggles with all of you, I really shouldn't get carried away, as I am here on behalf of Thos. Baker. They're a pretty terrific group, so hopefully, they won't mind a teeny bit of humor here and there.... :)

Christi, on behalf of Thos. Baker

I have a counter height table with chairs in my kitchen so I can use the table for extra work space (I'm counter space challenged). We use this as our everyday eating place. Everyone that comes to my house for a party loves it. But, my kids hate it as their feet don't touch the floor and they can't slide their chairs in. (I think they just want to complain about something.) Kind of comical watching them hop a long.

Anyway...I'd buy it for my patio in a heartbeat.

pickyvicky, one day their little feet will touch the floor! Thank you for your positive input, and if you decide to buy a counter height table for your patio someday, just give us a call!

@Thomas Baker -- but they're both 6'0".... Lol.

He he.

pickyvicky -- they do grow fast, don't they? :)

Yep. When the youngest came out of his bedroom the other morning we thought he had to have grown over an inch. I don't know how he does it. Must be the "Miracle Pizza."

Can we get serious here? Focus **

I'm focused now.

My eyes are still burning.

Focus? On what? I already forgot the question

@pickyvicky- your eyes are still burning from seeing your son come out of the bedroom an inch taller??

was there a question?

@margo -- I wish. All I know is that he better not be watching what you're watching. Lol

no, I'm afraid of heights. these are nice looking chairs, though.

We need a focus group to discuss it. Paid by the marketers, of course.

If I was paid to *focus*, I would be rich$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ;))))

Personally, I don't even like sitting in them in restaurants. They're a PITA when you're 5'0"

Not saying they're not nice, just not for me.

Bungalowmo, do you know about TSFP (too short for penguins?) if not I will post the link.

test s t

Haven't seen it chook! Post away!

None of the above - I like my feet to touch the ground / floor when I sit

Bungalowmo, here it is, ask fissfiss about TSFP.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/lets-play-with-my-snazzy-garottage-project-dsvw-vd~977029

Easier to clean and store, less bacteria.

I don't care for the bar-style furniture on a patio -- mostly because people like my husband, who finds the counter-height seating uncomfortable, would not sit with me there.