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Bathroom Mid Reno and Terrified.. Help!

11 years ago
I am remodeling a bathroom long distance.. (its the worst)! I was inspired by the photo below and thought I'd take a crack at it. Well my bathroom is much smaller than the inspiration photo and I didn't take into account that my ceilings were 7' high. Everything just seems so crammed. I'm attaching the layout that I designed below. My contractors built it to spec but now I am freaking out! My shower wall will be trimmed out with 6" baseboards, 4" trim and T&G plank like the inspiration photo and the walls around will have a similar treatment. I plan on using Hex on the floor, subway tile on shower walls and a 60" carrara Vanity in white. At this point, I am willing to pay to fix it if it is off. It might be nice once its all done.. i don't know. Please let me know if I should see the design through or tell them to fix it now.. If it needs to be fixed, please recommend some fixes. Thank you!

Comments (23)

  • 11 years ago
    Here are a few additional photos.. Do you think it would help to move the knee wall to the other side like the proposed?
  • 11 years ago
    or maybe make the knee wall 18" wide instead of 24" wide which would give me a 34" door instead of 28"?
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    Why a knee wall in such a tight space and with a lower ceiling? Consider a floor to ceiling glass mounted on a Schlutter or equivalent tray. You have room for a bench and could make this a steam shower (pricey, but I would not trade mine for the world). A harmonious tile selection, glass and well designed cabinet/toilet can give the sense of a much larger space. Use vertical elements to create "lift". Good luck!
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    I would eliminate the front section of the knee wall. I am not sure if the hue of the picture is correct, if it is, am I seeing green board on the inside of the shower walls? If that's the case I would highly recommend you change it to a cement board or Hardie board if you are planning to do a subway tile with non sanded grout. Good Luck!
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    Not sure why the knee wall in this space I would have done a nice glass shower and I agree green board is not good for shower enclosures cement board is the way to go and I would want to see that installed and a picture of it from my contractor before anything else is done.To be honest I don't see the point of the wall in the inspiration photo either.
  • 11 years ago
    Thank you AD. Patricia do you think just eliminating the front knee wall will help? I'm not sure why they used green board instead of cement board. Is it cheaper? What are the disadvantages of the green board?
  • 11 years ago
    Hi. If you paint it light colours it'll look good. Be careful of the placement of the shower door in relation to the taps in the shower and the exterior door.... You should think about the practicality of turning on the shower without having to get in it first (that is really annoying). Also, the door should swing out for the same reason (and so you don't have to do a little dance in the shower when you are trying to get out, but that makes me a bit worried about it smashing into the exterior door. How often is that used? Could you get that door re-hung so it opens the other way?
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    Yes green board is cheaper but you have to insist on proper backing for tiling in a shower or next year you be ripping out the bathroom because of water damage. I still don't get why you want this wall at all.
  • 11 years ago
    Could the exterior door open outwards ? Are the existing windows remaining ? Could you include a toe tester in the shower ? Forget the knee wall, install a full height wall. Use a large mirror above the vanity, Instead of a linen cabinet consider a heated towel rail. What is the climate like in your location ? Do you have cold winters ?
  • 11 years ago
    The cement board has to go over poly or roofing felt as a vapor barrier. Or you can use a topically applied waterproofer like Hydroban over the greenboard. But greenbard by itself hasn't been ever really been acceptable, and has been against code for around 8 years now. I'd be very concerned with the knkwledge and skill level of your contractor. Is he a fully licensed and insured contractor? Has he pulled the proper permits? I can't imagine that passing inspection.
  • 11 years ago
    Green board should NOT be used inside the shower. As others have pointed out it is very simply the wrong product.
  • 11 years ago
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    Before you go saying it is against code, or trying to discredit this contractor, perhaps you should consider that you have no idea what products will be used.

  • 11 years ago
    Thank you guys! I have taken off the front facing knee wall (I think it brightens the space) and my contractor has installed Kerdi over the green board. I will think about reversing the swing of the door. This is the look I am going for for the vanity area.
  • 11 years ago
    This photo doesn't show it but he has put the Kerdi on the entire surround. To clarify, my exact vanity will be the photo above and I will be doing mirrors/sconces like photo above as well.
  • 11 years ago
    Fred. I am well aware that kerdi can be used over even regular drywall. However, the number of contractors out there that use kerdi and have had Schluter training is very very small. If on the remote chance the original poster has found one of these pros...then yes the green board will work. In general it is a very safe bet to say that if you see green board being used in a shower...it is being done improperly.
  • 11 years ago
    Why don't you show me where you get your statistics that say this contractor can't do it properly? You have no idea what you are talking about.
  • 11 years ago
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    All I needed to see is greenboard being used for the curb, and a completely flat shower pan with Kerdi sorta stuck on top, with what looks like an improper interface with the drain. I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt as to the proper waterproofing being done over the greenboard, but those hack details seal the deal. This guy needs to be booted before he wastes any more expensive materials. And the OP has a leaky moldy mess on her hands under those expensive materials. No way to fix that other than start over.

    Again, is this a licensed and insured contractor, who is pulling the proper permits and getting the job inspected? I suspect not. And since the OP is trying to do this long distance, who knows what details that she hasn't been sent pictures of have been done improperly? Just the shower details alone are enough to call into question his basic competency in other areas. Like that off centered toilet flange. Let's hope he's kept his hands off of the electrical!

    Other PLAINLY VISIBLE ISSUES. No light roughed in over the shower. With the wall cladding already up. Order of operations??! What's the pipes hanging out of the wall? Should be connecting to the valve behind the wall, with only the valve rough in peeking out. Like Fred's video. And there is no nipple for the shower head either. How is that supposd to happen?
  • PRO
    11 years ago
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    Drywall in the shower? Not the best choice in my books either. And used for the curb.... wow.

    I hope the shower was flood tested.

    I hope there was a proper pre-slope.

    It looks like the Kerdi was used with a non Schluter Drain. Kerdi is not approved for use with any drain other than their own bonded membrane drain.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    Wow is also my comment. I see an entire bathroom that was done incorrectly and will need to be redone. In my opinion, you need to stop this project and hire a licensed general contractor who will build you a bathroom that meets code with permits. I can look this work and tell that it is being built completely un-permitted.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    Consider using pocket doors in cramped areas like this one.
  • 11 years ago
    I have parted ways with this company and am in the process of trying to get my money back. The company is licensed.. they obviously sent hacks to do my job.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    This morning I worked on my Top Ten Worst Fails in bathroom renovations. Drywall as a backer board made the list. To view the rest of the worst - visit the link below...

    http://no-curb.blogspot.ca/2015/01/the-worst-renovation-mistakes-of-2014.html