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Cement Patio Problems

14 years ago
Hi everyone, I recently purchased a house with alot of unprofessional, uneven cement work done on the patio. As you can see from the pictures, this cement work was done with daily leftovers from the contractors working in the sub-division. I am looking for ideas to cover it up. Is it possible to re-face the cement or are their products that can be used to cover it OR should I cover it with a wooden deck.
Also in front of this mess, is a 20X20 smoothly poured pad, that use to have a shed on it. I tore the shed down, and now I am looking for ideas for its use as well as suggestions on whether to cover it as well. If I was to cover it, do you suggest it be the same as the area attached to the house or should it be different. Maybe a siting area with a fire pit or bar area, maybe a pergola to complement the area? Any suggestions would help. Thanks

Comments (11)

  • PRO
    14 years ago
    last modified: 14 years ago
    The concrete makes a great base for flagstone, or other outdoor tile!

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    Then some plants around the perimeter and a pergola or overhang and you've got an outdoor room!

    Concrete is SO costly, I'd hate to see you tear it out only to wish you'd used it somehow later.
  • 14 years ago
    If I was to cover it up with flagstone or simply use interlock bricks, would I only need to use limestone as a base?
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    last modified: 14 years ago
    Best practice for a flagstone patio is concrete pad and flagstone top (set in a mortar bed). Perhaps a slipsheet.

    A lovely low wall around the perimeter and some lush landscaping, a roof off the house over the current seating area and over the sliding doors and you're there!
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Love the look of this overhang for your brick home.

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  • 14 years ago
    When you say the concrete is "uneven," do you mean it was not properly leveled & screeded? Or are you referring to the step-down from the patio door out toward the lawn? If the concrete was improperly leveled & screeded, your only choices are to cover it with decking or pavers; or get a breaker, jackhammer it out & cart off the pieces. Concrete cannot be patched & re-leveled the way some might think. There are ways to patch cracks tho...

    I'm not sure from the photo how much room you might have from the floor level of your patio door, down to the concrete. If you have about 4"-6", you could put in some fill (to level out the presumably uneven concrete) & add pavers/flagstones as others suggested, then where the step is to drop down to the next level of concrete pad, you would have enough room to cover the concrete completely with more fill & pavers, or with a wood or composite deck of your choice. If you do not have enough room from the floor level of the patio door down to the concrete surface to add any sort of pavers or decking, you might be stuck with having concrete in that area. But you could still cover the remaining concrete in the yard with decking and/or pavers. Your biggest issue is how much fill you'd need to bring in to make the concrete level enough to support pavers/flagstones.

    An alternative you might want to consider, if the concrete is actually in decent condition & is level on both the upper and lower portions, is to etch grooves in the existing concrete to mimic large slabs of tile (this is a big, difficult job requiring a special tool so you might want to hire a contractor for this); and once you have your "tiles" etched in the concrete, you could do a DIY & prep the concrete by grinding & using a specialized concrete cleaning product followed by acid staining in the color(s) of your choice. Google outfits like Kemiko or Concrete Solutions for further study. As a frame of reference, a gallon of acid stain costs about $65-$125 depending on the manufacturer, & 1 gallon covers about 400sf in a single coat. Working with the concrete you have just might be a cheaper option than decking or pavers...
  • 14 years ago
    Sorry - I mixed up the uneven patio area - with the reclaimed Shed - area. So, if you do cover the patio part with a ground level style deck - then there will be no problems with the other - and like others have said - since the reclaimed shed area IS even - beautiful flag-stone over the top would be fabulous! No futher work required other than prep for laying on top.

    Please let us know what you end up with - with LOVE to see the results. :-)
  • 14 years ago
    Perhaps a faster, easier and less expensive solution is to use a concrete resurfacing product. These products are referred to as concrete resurfacing, coating, or top dressing. They are applied in a thin coat over stained, cracked, and pitted concrete to make it look new again. Because of this the coating dries quickly.

    The products can be left to look like new concrete but may also be colored or be finished to look like stone, brick, marble, granite and so many more. Many of the products are also self leveling. For interior concrete they are used to create polished concrete floors or for countertops.

    Go to Google to find product manufactures or installers or Google Images to see photos of before and after jobs.

    Best of luck in finding a solution.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    I covered this concrete pad with copper slate tiles. The concrete is the perfect base for any kind of stone or ceramic tile. Just make sure you select something that doesn't get slippery when wet.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    You indicated the concrete was poured from "daily leftovers" in the subdivision. Does that mean it was poured over a span of a few days, weeks? Would you know if it ws poured over compacted granular fill? What are the chances that the slab does not have any mesh reinforcing?

    Before spending too much money on covering it, you have to make sure it was prepped and poured correctly and not with "shortcuts" which will start to show sooner than later.
  • 14 years ago
    Concrete cracks and moves like mentioned, first make sure the base will not move, simple. You can epoxy to keep it in place for a short time, but if it moved ounce it will move again epoxy will not fracture but concrete an inch a way will, so be sure your base is solid like mentioned.