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Dead zone

13 years ago

Hello all,
I bought a home last year after living in an apartment forever. I selected a 16' x 16' section in the backyard for my garden, which was used by the previous owner to park a car. The ground was heavily compacted and full of those âÂÂdrivewayâ rocks. I thoroughly removed all of the rocks, tilled the packed ground to death, and had about 2-3 feet of fresh soil dumped on top. I fertilized, and everything has grown superbly, except for one thing.

The patch is adjacent to our garage, and the veggies I planted there (climbing beans and cucumbers) did not do well. Many perished. Those that did grow were not healthy looking. Everything outside of about 1-2 feet from the garage has grown as expected.

I think this may be a few things: the garage is treated wood. I took steps to place untreated wood over it so that the chemicals would not touch the soil and seep into the garden. I fear that may not have worked. Secondly, next to the garage there were those nasty pervasive lilies that donâÂÂt take no for an answer. I spent hours (and hours) digging all of the roots out of the ground so they would not return. Only a few weak little lilies sprouted around the veggies, and were easily removed. A friend also told me that it looks like a pH problem. I bought a tester but the ground is still frozen (glorious Canada). Any suggestions or ideas?

Comments (12)

  • 13 years ago

    Could be something leaking from the car that was there - gas, oil, antifreeze

  • 13 years ago

    It actually is a south facing wall and the sunlight does not seem to be an issue.

    ltitlon, you're scaring the hell out of me with that talk!

    I will see what the pH test says. Any reason why the pH would be different in sections of a garden, especially with freshly laid soil as of last year?

  • 13 years ago

    It could help be more specific if you tell us just how much of the soil is "freshly laid."

  • 13 years ago

    Is it under a drip line? What is the drainage from the garage roof, and what is the roof made of? Things there might be getting smashed with downfall that the lilies could handle because of their rhizome, foliage cushion. Is that possible?

  • 13 years ago

    In times past I constructed raised beds out of treated wood, there was never an issue with plants growing.
    Ltilton had a good idea re oil etc.
    Also there may have been past herbicide use. One herbicide, for instance, Pramitol, is supposed to stop growth for a year or more.

  • 13 years ago

    Thanks y'all. The garage has standard tar roof shingles. There is at least 1.5 feet deep of new soil. It was 3 feet when dumped, but has now packed down. I basically dug 6-8 inches of gravelly clay out and removed it before adding the new soil last summer. There was no pesticide use that I could tell (by the rampant growth of lilies in that spot).

    glorygrown: I think you get the prize. I climbed up there and I think what is happening is that rain water is somehow getting behind the eaves and running down the wall, so it was not noticeable by just looking at it last year. Looking at the thaw now, it looks like a lot of water gets back there and pools up.

    Gonna try and seal the eaves tight so that doesn't happen.

    Thanks everyone.

  • 13 years ago

    Get the soil tested, too, if you can.

  • 13 years ago

    You'd be better off getting a soil test done at your local agricultural center. Yes, your soil will be different ph's in different spots. When you take the soil test you will be taking little samples from all over the garden. It only cost about 3 dollars for just the ph test and 7 dollars for a test that will tell you what you need to fertilize with.

  • 13 years ago

    Hey all, just a follow up... I tested the pH throughout the garden, in the "dead zone" the pH was acidic as hell! Like, under 5. Everywhere else was ok (b/t 6.5 and 7).

    Thanks to all, I think the mystery is solved.

  • 13 years ago

    Plant blueberries!

  • 13 years ago

    You might want to try a organic soil stimulator as well.