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18 years ago

Well...last year was my first vegetable garden and I had so much fun. But almost everything was store bought plants. This year I'm doing it from seed for 90% of it, and I've been doing really well, but I'm a little concerned these past few days.

I'm attaching a link to view pictures of my seedlings. What concerns me, is do they look healthy? Some of my tomatoes are dropping, some have dried up leaves (what causes this?) I don't think I've been water too much once or twice a week. My herbs are just the saddest sight ever, i didn't include pictures of those, I've accepted that I need to buy plants for those, they just didn't make it, but I don't know what I did wrong.

I've got the pepper plants and tomato plants down to one plant per cell. I KNOW i have to do the same with the zuccini because they are just too big for that little pot.

I set them all outside over the weekend when it was in the 70s, but otherwise they have been inside under grow lights in a little green house cart. I set the green beans outside today because I want to get them into the garden this weekend. I know they supposedly don't transplant well, but last year I transplanted green beans and they did AWESOME. So I figured I could do it again.

Any help and advise would be great as to what I should be doing next...because I'm clueless.

thanks!

Pictures:

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0Act2jZq0bsmLoI&notag=1

Kristen

Comments (12)

  • 18 years ago

    Your plants all look "leggy'. They are not getting enough direct sunlight. Since all your photos appear to be shot indoors, I suspect that the plants are also growing indoors. I'd like to recommend a book to you that was written for the beginning gardener. It's a small book but it covers from A to Z everything you need to know to be successful, including how to build a plant incubator that hangs outside your window for maximum light and seedlings to die for. The title is From Seed To Salad, and it can be previewed at iUniverse publishers.

  • 18 years ago

    thanks for the input. I will put them outside everyday now, since it's supposed to be sunny and in the 70's for the rest o the week. this should help?

    I've had them under grow lights for 12-14 hours a day, but maybe that hasn't been enough.

    Out they go!

    Kristen

  • 18 years ago

    Hi rebelslgb, how far away from the tops of your plants do you keep your lights? Shouldn't be more than an inch or two. Those tomatoes will probably still be okay, just plant them really deep when you set them out, then they can grow new roots from the buried stem.

  • 18 years ago

    You can help yourself somewhat, especially with the tomatoes, by repotting the individual plants in 3- or 4-inch pots and putting them in deeply. With some outdoor sun and air they can be strenghtened considerably before it's time to go into the garden.

  • 18 years ago

    Kristen,
    When you are ready to start putting your plants outside, you need to do it gradually(called 'hardening off'). Start with just an hour or two in the shade or filtered sun, then the next day for a little longer, a little more sun, and so on...for about a week. I've lost quite a few plants in the past by trying to skip the hardening off process. It pays to have patience.
    What herbs do you have and what are their symptoms? Herbs generally like drier soil, and little to no fertilizer. After hardening off, most prefer full sun.
    Good luck and let us know how it goes.

  • 18 years ago

    Ok, I'll repot the Tomatoes. I have them in the shade outside right now, it's been about 2 bours.

    My lights are more than an inch or two from the tops of my plants, except for the tomatoes. They really aren't adjustable, as we've attached them to the tops of the racks of the little greenhouse cart I have. they are probably 6 inches from the smaller plants and an inch or so from the tomatoes. That's a good tip for next year though, I'll be in a new house so I can rig up something new :)

    The herbs are just...small. It's like they broke through the soil and stopped growing for most of them. The parsley, cilantro, and sage have gotten a bit taller, but they are laying completely flat in the soil, it's just so sad looking LOL. I probably over watered those if they like drier soil (did not know that) and don't like fertilizer, as i watered a few weeks ago with a half dose of miracle grow. I still have seeds so I may try them all over again if it's not too late.

    I just planted 3 of the green bean plants in the garden, as i see it's going to rain this weekend and it's going to be nice through friday. I only did half incase they don't make it. I planted carrot, romaine and spinach seeds directly into the garden as well.

    So the plan is I will repot the tomatoes in bigger 3" in pots and have them a little deeper so they can grow new roots, and then I will harden off my plants for a week or so until they can be left outside. Once they are hardened off, do I leave them outside, or do I still bring them in at night? I would think it's still too cold at night to have tomatoes and peppers outside.

    thanks for all the help, I thought I was doing really good, but these past too days the plants haven't looked as good. Although I think my pepper plants look good, but maybe not.

    kristen

  • 18 years ago

    What have your nighttime temps been(what zone are you in)? If there's no more frost in the forecast, you can leave your plants outside after hardening them off. And you're doing very well for your second garden! Don't be so hard on yourself!
    It wouldn't hurt to start a few more herb seeds, but the ones you have may still do ok. Parsley and cilantro do tend to flop over. Just keep them close to the light and be careful not to overwater.
    Having a small fan blowing(lightly)near your plants will help to sturdy them up and keep fungal problems to a minimum. Keep us posted!

  • 18 years ago

    I agree with previous post
    DO NOT BE HARD ON YOURSELF
    Gardening seems to be nothing
    But a great learning process
    also
    BE FEARLESS

    Don't plant the tomatoes "a little deeper"
    Plant them ALOT DEEPER
    They will generate new roots from the stem

    To me the beans look like: "Toast"
    I would say start over outside (from seed)
    I learned the hard way that beans like warm soil
    (soil temp aboue 75 deg)
    I found no reason to rush them in the ground
    Your growing season should be plenty long
    The peas look like they are ready to go in the garden
    Peas can take some cold nights
    and should transplant well with care

    Good Luck

  • 18 years ago

    You can plant more than tomatoes deeply: cabbages, off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others. I don't believe peas and beans are in that category though.

    You could check out an idea called "winter sowing" - based on the premise that seeds will germinate when it is best for them.

    Me, if I don't start it indoors and transplant it (except potatoes, parsnips, carrots and sometimes beets) it ain't gonna grow. Soil here is so heavy the seeds just rot in the ground.

    Other than the above advice, I'm not sure that a leggy plant can recover. You still have lots of seed, right?
    :)

  • 18 years ago

    There is a book I used when I first started and I continue to consult it from time to time: The Vegetable Gardener's Bible by Edward C Smith. Very concise and relevant information that's easy to understand. I think that you are waiting too long to transplant the seedlings. For tomatoes, I typically will transplant them into 4" or larger pots when they are about 4" tall or have the 2nd set of true leaves. 1st set of true leaves should be just above soil after transplanting. Doing this and keeping your lights just an inch or two above the plants makes a big difference.

    Good luck.

  • 18 years ago

    Peas would be fine outside. Mine went into the garden beginning of March. Had severla hard frosts and now they are about 2 inches tall and shooting up.

    Beans I allows direct sow into the garden. Zuk, squash and cuks look to be already outgrown the cells. I usually start 2-3 seeds per 4 inch pot and thin to the best one.

  • 18 years ago

    my toms looked like that too. i had them started indoors in front of a LARGE window facing west. they have been outside for a week now, and look better, though they willstill be leggy when put inthe ground. i had hoped to get them in ground this weekend, but i dunno if that will happen.

    jus tplant them deep and they should be okay.

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