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15 years ago

I'm new to vegetable gardening and have a spot about 8 x 16. The will run north south. I have trees on the north end and 4foot hedges on the E and W sides and completely open on the S side. Which way should my rows go? N to S or E to W for optimum sun. Also I'm planting tomatoes, zucchini, pole beans, peppers, sugar snap peas parsley and basil. What is the height order of these? Thanks SO much!

Comments (10)

  • 15 years ago

    I like to run my rows east/west.

    The beans and peas can be grown in the same row. Sow the peas now, once they start to decline, so the beans and when they slow down, resow peas. They will be the tallest plants.

    The tomatoes and peppers will be the next tallest, followed by the basil and parsley.

    The zukes are vines so would go in front.

    Mike

  • 15 years ago

    Thank you. Im glad I asked... I thought the tallest would have been tomatoes. I don't want any of my vegetables to shade out any others.

  • 15 years ago

    I recommend planting rows north to south. Plant The tomatoes on the north end of one row, with the peppers on the south end of the same row (they are in the same plant family) . Plant the pole beans on the north end of a row, with the parsley and basil at the south end. Plant your peas in the 3rd row and then when the weather turns warm and the peas stop producing well, you can pull the peas and plant your zuccinis in the same row. I would plant a cover crop (clover/buckwheat or cowpeas) in a fourth row and rotate your crops in this order year to year to prevent soil born diseases from building up.

  • 15 years ago

    no way tomatoes are as tall as peppers. At worst, small determinate plants may be close to peppers. But indeterminate plants easily reach 8 feet and average 6. They will shade the peas, but by then the peas will have stopped producing. Tallest are pole beans, but only if you give them a trellis.
    Shortest are parsley and basil. Second tallest are tomatoes.
    Zucchini and peppers are about as tall, 3 ft at maturity, and half as tall as tomatoes. Get some Fall greens for when the zucchini get killed by the borers.

  • 15 years ago


    no way tomatoes are as tall as peppers.

    Am I reading that right? Because it looks like you're contradicting yourself.

  • 15 years ago

    I think he means to say that...There is "no way [that] tomatoes are as tall as peppers".

  • 15 years ago

    my tomatoes can grow 5ft+ depending on the height of the support structure I give them. The pepper plants never go higher than 3ft - they bush-out at that point

  • 15 years ago

    So the consensus is N-S or E-W or doesn't it matter?

  • 15 years ago

    If you run N-S you'll need a path up the middle. You're going to need to be able to reach everything without standing on plants.

    Basically, you want to consider that anything you plant to the south will shade what's planted to the north behind it. Thus, you typically put the tallest plants north. However--and this is something I've never quite understood--if you've got beds running N-S, I still don't see how you can put a 6' tomato plant directly to the south of 7' pole beans. Yes, they're shorter, but you're still going to have 6' of shade in front of your pole beans.

    For what it's worth, my beds run E-W. Every 4 feet, I've got a 3' path between the beds. That means for every 4' of planting space, I've got a north end and a south end. I stagger the plants N-S (tall/short/path/tall/short/path). The path gives me walking space and moves my taller plants far enough away so that they aren't shading the next thing over, they're only shading the path. (Don't know if I've explained that well).

    Here is a link that might be useful: my blog

  • 15 years ago

    Height order: Pole beans, sugar snap peas, indeterminate tomato, determinate tomato, peppers, zucchini, basil, parsley.

    My rows go E-W.

    The peas and beans (as tallest) are planted in the northern most row. Next tallest are the tomatoes, planted in a row 4-5 feet away. Although they grow to 6ft, they are not a shade problem for the beans which are planted north of them. When they reach their full height, the 6 ft tall tomatoes will only shade the very lowest leaves of the 7 ft tall bean plants.

    If you are doing rows with paths between, none of your other plants will get tall enough to be a shade problem for the other rows.

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