Software
Houzz Logo Print
kawaiineko_gardener

need help with lime!

I basically need to know how much lime to add to my raised beds; I have a 4' x 4' and a 4' x 8'; the 4' x 4' has 16 sq. feet of growing space, the 4' x8' 32 sq. feet of growing space.

I tried looking on the bag of lime but unfortunately it didn't really help; it recommended 2-1/2 to 5 lbs. per 100 sq. feet.

That's a very broad and general guideline of how much to apply and the square footage for my 4' x 4' and 4' x 8' are nowhere near 100 sq feet.

I realize it depends on the type of soil but I'm not using the native soil. I'm making my own soil mix and it's listed below..

12 gallons topsoil for 4'x 4' (24 for 4' x 8')
12 gallons spaghnum peat (24 for 4 'x 8')
9 gallons coarse vermiculite (18 for 4' x 8')
3 gallons pine bark mulch (6 for 4' x 8')
12 gallons compost (24 for 4' x 8')

osmocote (how much is used is based on square footage of beds; it's used for container gardening but contacted company who makes it they said it could be used for raised beds too)

Really need help with this as I can't plant anything in raised beds till I figure out how much lime needs to be added.

Please specify measurements in qts. gallons, cups, etc.

Comments (8)

  • 13 years ago

    Why would you apply lime at all unless you already know the pH of the existing soil, and what pH you are trying to achieve?

  • 13 years ago

    You need a soil test that measures pH and CEC, cation exchange capacity. That is the basis for a lime recommendation, if needed, in tons or lbs per acre. There are 43,560 sq ft per acre. A little math will tell you how many lbs per bed.

    No one can give a credible recommendation from the information you have listed.

  • 13 years ago

    Agree that the addition of lime to a raised bed isn't automatic or even required. The majority wouldn't need it and adding it only skews the pH and creates more problems. So what makes you think you need to add any?

    As others have pointed out, its use all depends on first knowing what you pH is to begin with. That requires a professional soil test.

    More importantly lime takes time to work so it is normally added, when needed, long before planting time.

    Dave

  • 13 years ago

    All well reasoned and said well.

    adding lime, even if needed, is not going to raise pH overnight. There are other fast acting SWEETNERS. Epson salt (magnesium sulfate) can also raise pH fast. So do phosphate. Nitrates, sulfates.. will lower pH.

  • 13 years ago

    I don't know what the PH of my soil is. I just add lime to my soil mixes because that is what most soil mixes call for.

    My question is, if I don't add lime is it going to cause problems for the plants I'm growing in the soil mix I created?

    I pretty much added what all plants need....drainage, aeration and food.

  • 13 years ago

    You only need to add lime if your soil is too acidic. Without knowing the pH of your current soil there is no way anyone can give you a recommendation.

  • 13 years ago

    because that is what most soil mixes call for.

    What soil mixes call for lime? Commercial bagged mixes sometimes include some lime but how much if any all depends on the company recipe.

    If you are using a specific recipe to make your own mix and that recipe calls for adding lime then that recipe should tell you how much to add and which type of lime to use. Otherwise it is just guesswork.

    My question is, if I don't add lime is it going to cause problems for the plants I'm growing in the soil mix I created?

    There is no way to know the answer to that without knowing the pH of the mix. It is the pH that determines whether the plants will have problems or not. That is why most people buy mix that is already pH balanced rather than try to make their own.

    Dave

  • 13 years ago

    kawaiineko:

    I'd go over to the container forum, tell them exactly what your soil mix consists of, and ask them if they think it needs some lime. However, a cheap, reliable ph test will tell you where you sit. Lime usually is added for 2 reasons -- adjust ph and deliver calcium and magnesium. But there are different ways of delivering these nutrients to your plants without raising/lowering the ph.

    Kevin